Harmor = best additive resynthesizer?

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BBFG# wrote:Air uses PACE. Which makes Harmor more preferable with a simple registration 'key'.
I find Pace more preferable to Harmor's "simple registration" myself, but it's just a personal preference. Both Hybrid 3 & Loom took me all of 2 minutes to register. No dongle and I registered Hybrid on 2 separate PC's in my home.


Echoes in the Attic wrote:
Neon Breath wrote:And regarding Harmor VS Loom, the OP asked 'best additive resynthesizer'. As far as I know, Loom doesn't resynthesize, or I am wrong?
No it's doesn't. But as you pointed out, the thread title wasn't "best resynthesizer", it was "best additive synth". Loom is an additive synth. I would still say Harmor is the best sounding additive I've heard though. But of course that's subjective.
I previously mentioned that I own both Harmor and Loom, and I love them both. I do find Loom much easier on the eyes though, as Harmor's GUI is a bit messy (for a lack of a better word) for my preferences. Both produce incredible sounds, but for my personal taste I would give Loom a slight edge in both sound quality and presets.

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quantum7 wrote:
BBFG# wrote:Air uses PACE. Which makes Harmor more preferable with a simple registration 'key'.
I find Pace more preferable to Harmor's "simple registration" myself, but it's just a personal preference. Both Hybrid 3 & Loom took me all of 2 minutes to register. No dongle and I registered Hybrid on 2 separate PC's in my home.
Not sure why running either during the install would have a preference really. But as always, I'm talking about what happens in actual use. And I continue to refuse to have unnecessary programs run in background services just to use the plugin. PACE is a parasite, whereas a key registration is simply a registry key (which BTW, PACE also does too in addition to its required service run).

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Echoes in the Attic wrote:
Neon Breath wrote:And regarding Harmor VS Loom, the OP asked 'best additive resynthesizer'. As far as I know, Loom doesn't resynthesize, or I am wrong?
... the thread title wasn't "best resynthesizer", it was "best additive synth".
Actually, it is "best additive resynthesizer". :wink:

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I'd rather pay $50+$25(transfer fee in the future) to plugin developers rather than giving money to shady hackable "anti hack" business to be in vain.

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tooneba wrote:I'd rather pay $50+$25(transfer fee in the future) to plugin developers rather than giving money to shady hackable "anti hack" business to be in vain.
Yep it's an easy decision:

Harmor = $60
Loom = $150 + PACE + no demo available

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I believe AIR is FINALLY going to have demo versions up soon. I got Loom, Hybrid, Transfer, Structure, and Vacuum for only $130 after I bought an Akai keyboard. Wait for AIR's sales and you will most likely get Loom for probably the same price as Harmer......but IMO Loom is well worth $150 if you are a working professional. $150 is chump-change compared to what I used to pay for hardware synths some 20 years ago. Young musicians have it sooooo made in this day and age.

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quantum7 wrote:I believe AIR is FINALLY going to have demo versions up soon.
I don't care. As long as it uses PACE i'm not interested. Also the audio demos weren't that much appealing.
quantum7 wrote:I got Loom, Hybrid, Transfer, Structure, and Vacuum for only $130 after I bought an Akai keyboard.
I don't want to buy an AKAI keyboard just to get Loom incl. PACE ;)
quantum7 wrote:Wait for AIR's sales and you will most likely get Loom for probably the same price as Harmer......but IMO Loom is well worth $150 if you are a working professional.
Btw the $60 for Harmor is just an offer on Sweetwater, it's not the regular price. So Harmor isn't a "cheap" synth and Loom more "pro".
quantum7 wrote:$150 is chump-change compared to what I used to pay for hardware synths some 20 years ago. Young musicians have it sooooo made in this day and age.
But young producers don't appreciate this... they skip from synth to synth and don't dig deeper. They are living in abundance.

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Wildfunk- So you don't like Loom, no problem, but to criticize ANY software just because of their protection scheme is just nuts IMO. Nearly all working professionals do not care what protection a particular piece of software uses, and to not use something that sounds great solely for that reason is sad for the user that thinks that way. Loom doesn't need a dongle and took me all of 2 minutes to register it.....on 2 separate PC's. Harmer wasn't any quicker to register. If I thought like you I would be missing out on such INCREDIBLE software that I own that uses various forms of protection that you deem unacceptable. I respect your feelings on it, but find sad for you that you are missing out.

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I won't make music with a protection key or a dongle, so I don’t care. As long as the synth sounds… Good. Makes senses doesn’t ? The only reason for me not getting Loom is not being able to try it, hands-on. It surely sounds fantastic, but I wanna make sure I like its workflow and feel. If there was a demo….. I'll end up with Harmor instead.

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Neon Breath wrote:I won't make music with a protection key or a dongle, so I don’t care. As long as the synth sounds… Good. Makes senses doesn’t ? The only reason for me not getting Loom is not being able to try it, hands-on. It surely sounds fantastic, but I wanna make sure I like its workflow and feel. If there was a demo….. I'll end up with Harmor instead.
I totally agree with you about not buying if you cannot try. I've been waiting forever for Hybrid 3 to have a demo available, but was fortunate that H3 was included with the keyboard I purchased. Once I heard the quality of H3 I was then confident to spend a measly $129 more to get Loom, Vacuum, Transfer, Velvet, and Structure......which was a freaking incredible deal IMO. It took me less than 5 minutes to register the additional 4 pieces of software and no dongle was required........which I could care less what protection any software uses. Sound quality is what I care about.

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Lucky you! :-)

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quantum7 wrote:Nearly all working professionals do not care ...
I don't know a single "pro" that uses Loom. And btw this thread is about resynthesis!
quantum7 wrote:Loom doesn't need a dongle and took me all of 2 minutes to register it.....on 2 separate PC's. Harmer wasn't any quicker to register.
First of all the plugin is called Harmor, not Harmer!!! And you don't know the difference between PACE and a generic registration...
quantum7 wrote:If I thought like you I would be missing out on such INCREDIBLE software ...
With an incredible non-existing demo... fail ;)

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Wildfunk wrote: I don't know a single "pro" that uses Loom.
Well, I don't know a single "pro" that uses Harmor. Like any of us know all the thousands of "pros" out there. That really means nothing. Since I make a comfortable living solely from music composition I guess I am a "pro". Now you know of one "pro" that uses both Loom & Harmor. :hihi:
Wildfunk wrote:First of all the plugin is called Harmor, not Harmer!!!
Thank you for correcting my typo. Sorry if my typing skills, or lack off, bother you. :dog:
Wildfunk wrote:With an incredible non-existing demo... fail ;)
You are right on that. I can't believe it's taken them so long to do this. I rarely buy without a demo, but as I previously mentioned, I got Hybrid 3 with a keyboard purchase which allowed me to finally judge AIR's quality. Supposedly they will have working demos soon. IMO every software should have a playable demo.

I really feel fortunate to own both Harmor and Loom- they both are incredible.

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quantum7 wrote:I really feel fortunate to own both Harmor and Loom- they both are incredible.
No, only Harmor is incredible... Loom is just "ok" ;)

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I prefer Loom, can do much more musically with it (but not resynthesis - then I have Alchemy which I prefer to Harmor as well).

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