SH-101 was used in a lot of EBM in the 90's as well..
Don't forget that it all started with underground electronic dance music like industrial synth. But the pioneers of that scene LOVED the sound of goa as well. They did also go to the parties..
Some EBM artists got bored and did a lot more interesting and trippy music instead. It was more fun and hadn't have to be so freaking serious I guess.
There's no "auditory" journey in pop music. Some people just don't get caught up in the actual sounds, the modulations, the nuances, the layers etc. They just listen to the lyrics and want the music to be cool/aggressive or fit with the lyrics in other some way. They don't seem to be able to connect to the actual sounds themselfs - for the sounds own being. I'm so grateful that I can do that (and without drugs).
When hearing high quality "goa" in '93 it just blew my mind. "So THIS is what sounds from synths can actually do" I remember thinking when I first heard it. I knew from that point that I wanted to learn everything about sounds/synthesis. I will remember that moment forever. I did listen to a lot of music from industriual/EBM/synth groups like FLA, Front 242, Pouppée Fabrikk, Skinny Puppy, And One etc etc etc. I still like some of it, but mostly for nostalgic reasons.
A funny anecdote I just remembered:
"The cool EBM guy" in school got hold of a cassette of goa trance in 1996-97 and said "this music, you have never heard, it's called goa trance and you can't get it anywhere...". It made by day for sure, I wasn't one of the cool guys (just the opposite) but when he said that, in front of a crowd of people, including his own hang-arounds... I just name-dropped all artists and all tracks. No one took him serious after that.. Poor dude. He did stop bullying me though. =)
He didn't even know the local EBM group (older much nicer guys) also did goa trance as side projects...
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- KVRian
- 1191 posts since 11 Nov, 2010 from ny
What about trance is so attractive to those who like trance? It seems a very poorly produced genre of music with very little thought regarding song composition and quality.
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- KVRAF
- 35671 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany
Seems like a prejudiced view from someone who hasn't spend enough time listening to the music.vertibration wrote: Tue Jun 14, 2022 6:34 pm What about trance is so attractive to those who like trance? It seems a very poorly produced genre of music with very little thought regarding song composition and quality.
Just like with other genres, there's loads of variety in the genre.
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- KVRAF
- 16724 posts since 13 Oct, 2009
Oh no, I feel like I should defend trance. I think that's when you know it's time to just step away from the keyboard.
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- KVRian
- 1191 posts since 11 Nov, 2010 from ny
emotional damage.........all good, post a link to the best trance producer you can think of.... 
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- KVRAF
- 16724 posts since 13 Oct, 2009
Back to the SH-101
Here's something minimal that features the SH-101 and allows you to see the changes easily. It's not going to give you digital-native-dance, but it is a good sounding Mono and it's all about that Roland IR3109 filter.
Here's something minimal that features the SH-101 and allows you to see the changes easily. It's not going to give you digital-native-dance, but it is a good sounding Mono and it's all about that Roland IR3109 filter.
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- KVRAF
- 35671 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany
You know, if I had the hardware, I probably would have a lot more fun with it, being able to tweak every single parameter of the synth.
Shame you can't even get the Behringer anymore...
Shame you can't even get the Behringer anymore...
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- KVRAF
- 35671 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany
Maybe, but, will it be as much fun? 
That's the thing I always notice on good instruments, digital or analog. That they're fun to tweak, and sound good over a wide range. And, that's also what I noticed with the only analog I ever played, a Jupiter-8 (even though it's by far not my favorite analog), and with the many analogs I heard in sound demos on Youtube or elsewhere. They just sound organic and good over the whole bandwidth, while bad instruments just fall apart, can do one thing well, but don't work outside of that comfort zone. It's something I have experienced with many, many soft synths I used. The ones which aren't like that stayed in my plugin folder, the big rest simply vanished from my hard drive.
That's the thing I always notice on good instruments, digital or analog. That they're fun to tweak, and sound good over a wide range. And, that's also what I noticed with the only analog I ever played, a Jupiter-8 (even though it's by far not my favorite analog), and with the many analogs I heard in sound demos on Youtube or elsewhere. They just sound organic and good over the whole bandwidth, while bad instruments just fall apart, can do one thing well, but don't work outside of that comfort zone. It's something I have experienced with many, many soft synths I used. The ones which aren't like that stayed in my plugin folder, the big rest simply vanished from my hard drive.-
- KVRian
- 797 posts since 21 Jan, 2017
Listen to some Oliver Lieb, (aka LSG, Spicelab, etc.)vertibration wrote: Tue Jun 14, 2022 6:34 pm What about trance is so attractive to those who like trance? It seems a very poorly produced genre of music with very little thought regarding song composition and quality.
Trance is not my favorite electronic music genre but there's some good stuff out there. Goa's not my thing though generally speaking. I need some breaks or funkiness in there somewhere if we're talking about dancing to it at least. Although maybe these days recording shows with your iphone is more important than getting down on the dancefloor idk.
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- KVRian
- 797 posts since 21 Jan, 2017
Well I guess the above isn't trance per se but he typically does produce trance check out his other stuff i just linked that quickly as it's one of his more popular albums. Yes I know ^ doesn't have the right bpm for trance. People can check out his actual trance tracks if they so desire there's plenty out there to choose from. One of my favorite producers, one of the only trance producers I listen to.
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- KVRAF
- 3812 posts since 20 Apr, 2005
Same problem that anything has when it becomes too commercial and too successful.vertibration wrote: Tue Jun 14, 2022 6:34 pm What about trance is so attractive to those who like trance? It seems a very poorly produced genre of music with very little thought regarding song composition and quality.
Back then
edit for better sound quality link
https://soundcloud.com/sebasone/paul-oa ... cream-cd-1
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- KVRian
- 912 posts since 18 Feb, 2004
Which "trance"?vertibration wrote: Tue Jun 14, 2022 6:34 pm What about trance is so attractive to those who like trance? It seems a very poorly produced genre of music with very little thought regarding song composition and quality.