Vengeance Producer Suite - AVENGER - 1.8.5 the main thread

[tripleflows]

There's also no way to tweak the actual scaling or centre point for the Keytrack modulation source.

See Zones > MM KTRK keyboard. It could not be simpler and more effective...

I see lots of issues are somewhat related to MBPs... yes there are still bugs and even features to be improved but Avenger is quite a usable high quality stuff even in its present state.

[vanhaze]

- Upgraded to version 1.023 (osx version)
- ECO Mode
- GUI Size set to 65%
- Used DAW: Reaper - OSX version-64bit (indeed, the most stable and cpu friendly DAW in the world, hard to get this DAW on its knees).
Macbook Retina 2015, 16 gigs RAM, 512 SSD, Core I7.
OSX 10.12.1

- Choose a random Arp preset, to tweak with and find out how it all works.
- Tweaking and more and more, understanding how Avenger works , actually was having more and more fun with this process ; i could hear the great potential of Avenger.
But, after 15 minutes, macbook fans starting and getting louder and louder.
After about 25 minutes of tweaking in Avenger: instant Reaper crash.

Is this a joke or WHAT ?!
Honest statement of Dev that testing on mac was a minority against windows version would be so fair.

[DaveEdwards]

Manuel if you need some more mac beta testers I'm here

I'm also on a MBP, 2015 maxed out i7 with discrete graphics and having these issues. Seems to build if you have several instances of Avenger going in one session also. Started out kinda stable and fairly CPU friendly, then it was all downhill once I opened a second one.

[MirkoVanHauten]

Just a friendly reminder that this graphic and cpu bug also appeared on windows! Can't test the eco mode right know because there's just the 1.0.22 demo online.

[bmanic]

Just a friendly reminder that this graphic and cpu bug also appeared on windows! Can't test the eco mode right know because there's just the 1.0.22 demo online.

Indeed. Fan kicks in and gets real hot real fast.

Intel i7 3630QM (old Ivy Bridge) and default init patch takes up 28% of CPU without playing a single note, according to Windows Task Manager. It's pretty weird.

[vanhaze]

Yes, could be true,but after reading this whole thread, windows users severe less of this bug than OSX users.

i am beginning to wonder if especially macbook (retina ?) users severe from this GPU bug;

Today i spoke a fellow who also bought Avenger.
He uses it on a Macpro (about 7 years old) and stated that he not had experienced any of such problems with Avenger (in Protools).

[vanhaze]

Yes, could be true,but after reading this whole thread, windows users severe less of this bug than OSX users. (so it seems).

i am beginning to wonder if especially macbook (retina ?) users severe from this GPU bug;

Today i spoke a fellow who also bought Avenger.
He uses it on a Macpro (about 7 years old) and stated that he not had experienced any of such problems with Avenger (in Protools).

[Sampleconstruct]

Just a reminder what was written in this thread shortly after the release:

TBH I don't care if a plugin "runs ultra smoothly in 60hz"

ok I might have a solution for the Laptops with bad/old graphic cards. I could imagine an ECO mode, being turned on on the SYS page, which will have half framerate etc...

Meanwhile I assume they understood that this statement was slightly embarrassing, narrowing the problems down to “only a few laptop users with bad/old graphic cards“ doesn't help anyone. I don't think there will be an easy fix for this if they really took 3 years to develop Avenger, but I certainly hope there will be a quick fix as I plan to use this synth a lot.

[kanzler]

I want to know if any one who own MBP and Logic pro x get the multi output working for all the 16 Channel in Drum mode ?

[MirkoVanHauten]

I don't think there will be an easy fix for this if they really took 3 years to develop Avenger, but I certainly hope there will be a quick fix as I plan to use this synth a lot.

That's what I dont't get. Spending 3 years developing, then doing a small closed beta period (which obviously wasn't long enough or not the right tester or a too small amount) and call bad hardware as cause for the bugs. C'mon. Why did the plugin had to be a secret (no open beta)?

Unfortunately Rapid seems more stable even tough I'd like to see how they handle the mac stuff (if it comes one day). I waited till the release of Avenger because I expected a smooth running beast. But know it seems more like a plugin I need to look at during easter discounts (if necessary at all). I think i have to go with Falcon.

[Naenyn]

Unfortunately Rapid seems more stable even tough I'd like to see how they handle the mac stuff (if it comes one day). I waited till the release of Avenger because I expected a smooth running beast. But know it seems more like a plugin I need to look at during easter discounts (if necessary at all). I think i have to go with Falcon.

I'm with you. I was eagerly awaiting the release of Avenger. I own quite a few of the other Vengeance plugins and love them all. However, after demoing Avenger, I think I'll have to wait a while for the first round of bugs to be ironed out before picking it up. I'm sure Vengeance will be all over fixing them, though. Avenger will eventually be an awesome synth. It is pretty great already.

[db3]

Unless there's a lot more optimisation possible, I wonder how easy it would be to implement a flat/non shadow vector GUI option, ala Fxpansion Strobe 2/Geist 2. Surely that would require far less compute.

[vanhaze]

Any OSX (or Windows) Avenger user succesfully can drag drop his own samples to Avenger from within DAW ?
I don't succeed in this :

- I open a Drum preset in Avenger.
- I click on the "Drums" tab, abit on the above right of gui.
- i now see the "piano roll" with the named drum sounds "slots"
- I drag drop a wav file from Reaper's Project Bay onto one of the notes of the Piano Roll. (24bit, 44,1 khz stereo file)
Outcome: The wav file isn't imported into the drum set., the "drum sound slot" is empty.

[EnGee]

Any OSX (or Windows) Avenger user succesfully can drag drop his own samples to Avenger from within DAW ?
I don't succeed in this :

- I open a Drum preset in Avenger.
- I click on the "Drums" tab, abit on the above right of gui.
- i now see the "piano roll" with the named drum sounds "slots"
- I drag drop a wav file from Reaper's Project Bay onto one of the notes of the Piano Roll. (24bit, 44,1 khz stereo file)
Outcome: The wav file isn't imported into the drum set., the "drum sound slot" is empty.

why don't you use the built in browser? It works for me.

[vanhaze]

Unless there's a lot more optimisation possible, I wonder how easy it would be to implement a flat/non shadow vector GUI option, ala Fxpansion Strobe 2/Geist 2. Surely that would require far less compute.

Makes me wonder why Devs didn't go for this GUI option in the first place.
Cause Strobe 2 / Geist 2 already looking just great imho.

General conclusion on my side is that Devs just wanted to put too much stuff in Avenger and didnt take time enough to (public) beta test all this stuff, both on windows AND mac.

Thinking: Let's release it anyway, as a pseudo xmas present, but all it is now for me is a major xmas bummer present, cause i can't work with Avenger for only half an hour before it crashes.