Cherry Audio Voltage modular

[xuoham]

Voltage Modular FM beast #2 : "Drunk Bonobos & Empty Bottles" (FM Station & VCF-20)

Continuing the "FM + gritty filter" series modular synthesizer noodling.
This time Cherry Audio's FM Station + their nasty super real VCF-20
(I used to own a Korg MS20 and this filter is sooo close !) + MRB's Low Pass Gate (not showing the full potential here).
And of course the indispensable two guys for me : Remote Control and Macro CV.

Last but not least, the conductor: Tetsuo Maruyama's Vari Step Sequencer !

The video is long, just to catch all the little quirks and burps this beast has to let go.

Background percussion is programmed with sounds from Melda's MDrummer.

[Nleif]

Can I get a list of your favorite midi controllers to assign lots of CV sources to for voltage modular?

I'd like to pick up something with lots of knobs and possibly an XY pad as well.

Cheers

[WasteLand]

Can I get a list of your favorite midi controllers to assign lots of CV sources to for voltage modular?

I'd like to pick up something with lots of knobs and possibly an XY pad as well.

Cheers

what kind of controllers are out there today, a lot, but the old BCR 2000, 32 endless encoders, and the upper row has 4 banks, and not to forget, you can store more mappings. and change easily. from the bcr 2000. so 2 banks (not the banks of the upper row), are 64 CC's... or 56 CC's per bank, with the upper row, and 2 banks, 112 CC's.....

an XY pad, i use a lightpad M for it... i don't know a controller that has an XY pad with, yes the novation sl 49 mkii, which i also have. and a lot of encoders, 8 endless, 8 not.., 8 faders, a lot of buttons (32? that can also programmed in 3 ways; toggle, step, momentary as the BCR 2000), and of course almost unlimited pages. 8 endless encoders, 8 step encoders (is that the term, what is term) and 8 faders per page = 24 CC's...

and with the MIDI CC CONVERTER, you can use more channels, so you are not limited to 128 CC's, and of course some CC's have already there "meaning" within voltage modular, pitch bend, modulation, sustain, aftertouch, etc.

but yes only second hand.

perhaps someone that doesn't lives in the past, can chime in......

[Nleif]

Thanks for the detailed response! I did more research and found the korg nanokey studio that looks like it borrows the XY pad from the Korg Kaoss line of yesteryear.

about to pull the trigger on it but wanted to ask you guys if I should look for endless encoders vs fixed? the korg nanokey studio isnt endless i don't think.

Is there a difference in knob resolutions for midi controllers that would make a difference for controlling the sensitive and detailed amounts of CV in Voltage modular?

[aMUSEd]

I just wish the 8 performer knobs were assigned automation IDs by default so they are always setup to be tweaked by hardware in any host - would make this more usable in Komplete Kontrol for example

[WasteLand]

Thanks for the detailed response! I did more research and found the korg nanokey studio that looks like it borrows the XY pad from the Korg Kaoss line of yesteryear.

about to pull the trigger on it but wanted to ask you guys if I should look for endless encoders vs fixed? the korg nanokey studio isnt endless i don't think.

Is there a difference in knob resolutions for midi controllers that would make a difference for controlling the sensitive and detailed amounts of CV in Voltage modular?

o yes of course, i also have the old nanoPAD (mk1 it is called then), with XY pad... but yes...

fixed or endless? i never controlled VM via midi, only via parameter control, and then they even jump? i don't use it often.

endless has only use, when there is bidirectional communication possible. and then they are great, no jumping values...

FM8 is the only, now it is not, the old NI prophet emulation has bidirectional communication, i understand it. doesn't matter i don't have that old emulation. FM8 is the only standalone instrument i know that can do that....

knob resolutions? it is always 0-127. but there is another midi protocol for more precise control, i.e. higher resolution. my MCU does it, and cubase can understand it..

NRPN, but i think VM only can interpret 0-127, perhaps via modules (i don't think there is a module, but it can be made..). i don't know.

and controllers with that kind of resolution.... there are controllers that can do that.. but the receiving end must also understand it. artuaria had it implemented, and the newer versions; not.. a pity.

so resolution no problem. but limited, but i can be wrong, to 0-127. i don't think VM can handle NRPN natively.

EDIT: there is a cheaper version, i think, i saw one in a store, it doesn't play that well, the keys, the keyboard. but perhaps you can get used to it. the nanoKEY is the bigger brother with knobs, and yes XY pad, perhaps it plays better.

[WasteLand]

I just wish the 8 performer knobs were assigned automation IDs by default so they are always setup to be tweaked by hardware in any host - would make this more usable in Komplete Kontrol for example

make a template?? the performer knobs assignments are stored in the preset, i think?

[WatchTheGuitar]

Endless controllers are great, but fixed are fine too provided the software/drivers allow soft takeover where values don’t jump until you move a control past the current value.

[WasteLand]

there is a new byte in town, get it!!

Byte Oscillator lets you to create your own waveforms using mathematical expressions. You can create bytebeat patches, program your own effects, create "normal" oscillators using the built in wave functions or create limited wavetables using the table/array construct.

The oscillator has two main parts, Algorithm and Sources. The algorithm is the function that creates the sound. You can write your own function or use any of the included algorithms.There are also buttons and CV that allows you you to modify the algorithm. The sources are the parameters for your algorithm. Three type of sources are supported: TIME, VALUE and AUDIO IN. TIME sources can be thought of as an oscillator with controls reminding of that. CONSTANT sources can be used to tweak the algorithms and AUDIO IN sources allowes you to mix in external sources into your algorithm.

With little, or no, knowledge you can use the built in algorithms to get interesting sounds, melodies and rhythmic patterns. With some time investment you can go really deep into sound creation.

https://store.cherryaudio.com/modules/byte-oscillator

[xuoham]

Yes, just saw on Facebook group ! Heeehaaah !

[aMUSEd]

I just wish the 8 performer knobs were assigned automation IDs by default so they are always setup to be tweaked by hardware in any host - would make this more usable in Komplete Kontrol for example

make a template?? the performer knobs assignments are stored in the preset, i think?

Yeah but then the next preset I load and it’s gone again

[WasteLand]

I just wish the 8 performer knobs were assigned automation IDs by default so they are always setup to be tweaked by hardware in any host - would make this more usable in Komplete Kontrol for example

make a template?? the performer knobs assignments are stored in the preset, i think?

Yeah but then the next preset I load and it’s gone again

yep... but all the new presets you make, from the template..

but still a global setting would be welcome. very welcome. so i see your point. not difficult to implement. many (or many..) other vst's lets you do global or preset.

[trackbout]

Looks like there's another thing on the way

https://twitter.com/cherryaudiovst/stat ... 7531140096

[xuoham]

If it's the ARP 2600, then i will really think it's too bad if CA guys don't update the Vintage Voice's Synth Voice to a third oscillator and Ring Modulation out jack (or at least a RingMod in at the filter). CA never claimed it would be an Arp2600 despite the very very very similar looks, but i would be willing to pay for an upgraded module, because the sound is here.
A VSTi would of course be usable with a VST host module but it's not an elegant solution.

edit: acutally it was a bit ambiguous, though they clearly said it had TWO oscillators :

"SynthVoice is a complete semi-modular vintage synthesizer, featuring two oscillators, a multi-mode filter, an LFO, dual envelope generators, sample and hold, and spring reverb. It's like having a classic ARP 2600 synthesizer in your modular rack."

[boombaxx]

Can u fix the buggy plugin host in reaper various things wrong with it