KVR Audio

BlackWinny · Post by **BlackWinny** » Mon Jul 03, 2017 4:02 pm

Russell Grand wrote:
BlackWinny wrote:Novation B-Station (the plugin).

Not because of the synth itself, it is probably excellent... but because I have never been able to install it (I systematically receive an error message about the pathname whatever the pathname I choose, even a pathname outside "Program files") and Novation support never answered my tickets!
To be honest, you aren't missing much. The B-Station VSTi is pretty weak IMO. V-Station on the other hand, I still like to add that one to a track now and then.

chk071 wrote:
BlackWinny wrote:Novation B-Station (the plugin).

Not because of the synth itself, it is probably excellent... but because I have never been able to install it (I systematically receive an error message about the pathname whatever the pathname I choose, even a pathname outside "Program files") and Novation support never answered my tickets!
No big miss. From a nowadays point of view, it sounds pretty poor. V-station is much better.

Yes, you are both right.

It even looks now as pitiful as a very humdrum freeware, what it should be now honestly. And there are tons of really very good freewares which are even way more interesting that this... hum... thing. I really can't understand why they don't decide to remove it from their catalog and keep only the V-Station.

Incidentally I think that all the sounds produced by the B-Station are doable with the V-Station, in fact, and the V-Station is probably (it looks that way for me at least) a kind of very enhanced B-Station with the same engine behind each of the modules. I haven't taken the time to check if they share the same types of oscillators and the same types of filters, but I assume that it is the case.

But even the V-Station doesn't appeal me when I see now many other plugin synths which for the same price (50 euros) are way better for the same purposes. Even with its three VCOs... but lonely VCF and a pitiful polyphony. I think that even TAL-Noisemaker makes better (and for free).

Novation is of course a top quality brand for its MIDI controllers and keyboards. But for the software plugins in my opinion they have totally missed the market.

pdxindy · Post by **pdxindy** » Mon Jul 03, 2017 5:04 pm

I would regret buying Serum... but fortunately I avoided buying it

BlackWinny · Post by **BlackWinny** » Mon Jul 03, 2017 6:27 pm

pdxindy wrote:I would regret buying Serum... but fortunately I avoided buying it

How lucky you are !

neurochasm · Post by **neurochasm** » Tue Jul 04, 2017 3:06 am

Numanoid wrote:Waves products like Element and Codex.

They are pretty good it themselves, but the installation procedure is just a pain in the neck, for a FL Studio user.

Seems I am not able to use Codex as 64 bit, because the Waveshell VST2 version will not load into a channel in FL Studio.

Yeah, Element 2's the only VST I've had problems with in FL Studio. I have to load it in the channel rack through the VST3 waveshell (whatever that is), and it's a little unstable. Also, there's something about tweaking the knobs that bugs me. Still use it though because it sounds pretty damn good.

HcDoom · Post by **HcDoom** » Tue Jul 04, 2017 8:52 am

Lush - never clicked with its gui but sound is top notch
Fm8 - gui is terrible and sound not to my taste
Hive - bought it because of supersaw which disappointed me on end
Synthmaster - gui is...well, no comment

confusedmuse · Post by **confusedmuse** » Wed Jul 05, 2017 11:44 am

masterhiggins wrote:Padshop Pro - Just never got around to using it, really

VirtualCZ - The desire to keep it faithful to the original hardware is annoying, as many improvements can be made in software.

Synthmaster - Buggy as hell

Virta - This is mostly my fault. Due to the awesomeness of Kaivo and Aalto I bought it without demoing. I mainly bought it for vocoding duties. Unfortunately, it sounds like sh** compared to the offerings of Razor/Lector/Orange Vocoder. Oh well. It was only $89.

Reaktor 5 - I bought it last year or so in anticipation of buying a crossgrade to Komplete 11 Ultimate, before NI decided to remove it's eligibility to upgrade. I would purchase Kontakt now, but I suspect NI will do the same thing with Kontakt for Komplete 12.

Virta? Seriously? It's the best, or rather the only good audio to synth thing available. I was looking for something like this for years. I've tried everything available, also audio to midi stuff, (which mostly had a terrible pitch recognition or extreme latency) and I own The Mouth and VocalSynth, but nothing works as good and produces such diverse sounds as Virta. It's so much more than a mere Vocoder. It's an audio controlled synth.
You may need to add some effects to add a bit of color or depht, but it's incredible how sensible this synth reacts to voice input. You can be very creative with it. One of my favourites.

syclick · Post by **syclick** » Wed Jul 05, 2017 11:47 pm

The Mangle. While I enjoy this one, I switched from Mac to PC, and since the dev is nowhere to be seen, I can't download the PC version now.

c_voltage · Post by **c_voltage** » Thu Jul 06, 2017 4:39 pm

confusedmuse wrote:
masterhiggins wrote:Padshop Pro - Just never got around to using it, really

VirtualCZ - The desire to keep it faithful to the original hardware is annoying, as many improvements can be made in software.

Synthmaster - Buggy as hell

Virta - This is mostly my fault. Due to the awesomeness of Kaivo and Aalto I bought it without demoing. I mainly bought it for vocoding duties. Unfortunately, it sounds like sh** compared to the offerings of Razor/Lector/Orange Vocoder. Oh well. It was only $89.

Reaktor 5 - I bought it last year or so in anticipation of buying a crossgrade to Komplete 11 Ultimate, before NI decided to remove it's eligibility to upgrade. I would purchase Kontakt now, but I suspect NI will do the same thing with Kontakt for Komplete 12.
Virta? Seriously? It's the best, or rather the only good audio to synth thing available. I was looking for something like this for years. I've tried everything available, also audio to midi stuff, (which mostly had a terrible pitch recognition or extreme latency) and I own The Mouth and VocalSynth, but nothing works as good and produces such diverse sounds as Virta. It's so much more than a mere Vocoder. It's an audio controlled synth.
You may need to add some effects to add a bit of color or depht, but it's incredible how sensible this synth reacts to voice input. You can be very creative with it. One of my favourites.

+1, but except only one sad thing - it's enormously cpu usage.

martinjuenke · Post by **martinjuenke** » Thu Jul 06, 2017 4:53 pm

We should enhance this topic to:
Synths I regret renting...

martinjuenke · Post by **martinjuenke** » Thu Jul 06, 2017 4:54 pm

Forget it !

martinjuenke · Post by **martinjuenke** » Thu Jul 06, 2017 4:55 pm

martinjuenke wrote:Edit...

martinjuenke · Post by **martinjuenke** » Thu Jul 06, 2017 4:56 pm

How the f**k can I delete postings? Is there a f**king manual?

Russell Grand · Post by **Russell Grand** » Thu Jul 06, 2017 4:58 pm

syclick wrote:I switched from Mac to PC

You don't see that very often.

martinjuenke · Post by **martinjuenke** » Thu Jul 06, 2017 4:58 pm

May I start a thread:
Posts you regret posting...

Russell Grand · Post by **Russell Grand** » Thu Jul 06, 2017 4:58 pm

martinjuenke wrote:How the f**k can I delete postings? Is there a f**king manual?

You can't.

Synths you regret buying