NI have announced they will no longer activate discontinued products

[gentleclockdivider]

If it wouldn't be for reaktor , I would avoid N.I. like the plague .
They are becoming a bad joke
An absolute dick move , not the first and certainly not the last
Eff them

[GaryG]

@chk071 Reaktor 3 is on the list here: <span class="skimlinks-unlinked">https://support.native-instruments.com/ ... 3397</span>

Alright, thanks. Then the first part of my reply applies.

Oh I appreciate that. Though doubt I'll be rolling back to Reaktor 3 anytime soon..

[audiot]

True, that's why I'd prefer the second option anyway.

Could you pm me some WORKING download links for the 32 GB Colossus Library from EastWest? But not for the newer Play-Version ... that would be illegal ... even in Germany

You shouldn't be looking for download links. A much safer method exists.

Thank you evildragon, but it was more of a rhetoric question. I dont wanna pay for a usenext account or something else to download illegal stuff. Why should i do that? I own the software

[EvilDragon]

I did not mean that. A free method exists that is safer. Starts with "T"

[audiot]

Ah okay! Starts with a "T" and ends with a "t" But again ... I dont wanna do that.

Nobody expects lifetime support, but you should be able to install software that you own. And in the case of sample libraries I really dont get it

What do these products have in common?

Microtonic - 2003
Zebra 1 - 2004
Sylenth1 - 2007

... still working. Nice products from cool companies. It is not as it's impossible to be a nice company with a loyal fanbase. And this is not a matter of size!

[highkoo]

Wat? This is real?
Hard to believe.

[audiot]

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[sacer]

A competition could help, and I would vote to, but I bet we wouldn’t get more than 1000 voices on kvr

[DocAtlas]

I don't have many products on the list, but it would be nice to be able to still use the few sample libraries I do have that are discontinued. I don't care that much about B4 II, I've move on to other virtual Hammonds. This could suck big time for a lot of users, though.

[Russell Grand]

We should all email NI about our disagreement with this policy. Here is what I wrote to them:

English: "you have informed me that an activation of certain older/discontinued products will only be possible until 31 May 2020. This is completely unacceptable. Either allow activation beyond this period or provide product versions that do not require activation. I reserve the right to take legal action. Regardless of this: as a loyal customer for many years I am appalled by this customer-hostile activation policy, which will certainly have a strong negative impact on your future business success. In the future, people will think twice (or not at all) to buy a NI product!"

German: "Sie haben mich darüber informiert, dass eine Aktivierung bestimmter älterer/eingestellter Produkte nur noch bis 31. Mai 2020 möglich sein soll. Dies ist völlig unzumutbar. Ermöglichen Sie entweder die Aktivierung über diesen Zeitraum hinaus oder stellen Sie Produktversionen bereit, die keine Aktivierung benötigen. Rechtliche Schritte werde ich mir vorbehalten. Unabhängig davon: als langjähriger, loyaler Kunde bin ich entsetzt über diese kundenfeindliche Aktivierungspolitik, die sicher starke negative Auswirkungen auf ihren zukünftigen Geschäftserfolg haben wird. Man wird es sich in Zukunft zweimal (oder gar nicht erst) überlegen, ein NI-Produkt zu kaufen!"

Reminds me of my letter I wrote after the Kore discontinuation debacle. I so understand you.

But

it won’t change a thing.

Sadly you're probably correct.

[dickie001x]

The question of whether or not an offline authorisation could still be done can be answered: no - see below from NI:

As of September 2017, the possibility of activating Native Instruments products offline has been discontinued. From now on, please use Native Access to activate your NI products.

The computer used for the installation of the product requires online access during the activation process through Native Access. All Native Instruments products now require an online activation in order to unlock the demo mode and use all product features without any limitations.

[JJ_Jettflow]

I'm sure you'd be surprised about the amount of copies they sold in spite of that "sh**storm".

Please provide proof of that statement. I want to see solid numbers not speculation. Get me the spreadsheets to analyze.

The point was that it doesn't matter what the size of the company is it's the decisions they make that generate reactions.

I know you can't see that as you are in blind defense mode.

Will the people who have decided not to do business with NI based on their unpopular decision make a real difference on the bottom line?

Perhaps not but again that's not the point. If you make an unpopular decision you'll get unpleasant reactions.

Again I'm sure NI can handle those reactions but the fanboys seem unable to accept the negative publicity even though they say "it won't hurt NI's business one bit".

You talk about "fanboys", and "blindness", yet, obviously, you're too blind to see that there's a lot of bashing here, and very little reason.

At least two ways of being able to go on using the plugins/activate them after the 31st of May have been mentioned, by the way. None of the people who never want to buy a plugin from NI anymore, or take legal actions against them, have even reacted to one of them. That alone says enough about the motives in this thread.

The motive in this thread is the same as many others here...pick a dev you don't like for no apparent reason and start bashing them for no apparent reason.

If I didn't know better I would say these bash threads are being orchestrated by someone or some group that wants to discredit these developers...I mean really, who gets this upset or wastes this much time being upset over a software developer or $100 piece of software? If this kinda stuff upsets these kinds that much I wonder what going to happen to them when they grow up and life hands a set of real problems?

So if you purchased a software product from a vendor that you still use and like, and they arbitrarily decide one day that you can no longer re-authorize it on a new computer -- their action seems fine? While the software is older that NI is no longer authorizing, the point is one of concern. The thread wasn't started to finger-point at NI. It was in response to a negative action NI initiated on their own. My life (and others) won't come to an end because of this action by NI, as there are plenty of other products to use. Clearly you're free to treat it as you wish, as am I. From my perspective, it paints NI in a poor light. That's not bashing a company for no apparent reason. That's expressing concern that a company is taking action that appears to many, to be unfair. Of course the easy solution is we all vote with our purchases. Clearly NI got a taste of this last year with their lay-offs. Perhaps more to come....

Since I have been purchasing music software since Dr. T's KCS in 1984, I have plenty of software I no longer use. I can't recall crying to the world about it. Seen a lot of hardware companies fold too. That's life.

I guess I am funny, I am a musician so I come to KVR because it is a music-based forum. I figure I will be talking about music creation and production, tips and tricks...not about some bullshit software company and their antics. If your music is so dependant on your equipment that you have to cling to an obsolete product from the past, then you might want to have a closer look at what you are actually trying to accomplish.

[collider]

Once again very happy I'm NI free.