Tone2 Warlock (synthesizer) - available now!

[fisherKing]

I am waiting to see how it is implemented because what you describe sounds unusual and I don't see it on the GUI.

Noone here still has been using this synth so far. You should wait with conclusions till you have used the product and built own sounds with it.

- The speed of all 4 LFOs can be changed.
- 3 of them can also synced to BPM.
- The waveform of 3 of them can be changed.
- One of them can be routed freely to many different targets. The routing of the others is fixed.

markus, who has created this plugin, is probably a reliable source of info about it...

But where did he say that those "4" LFO's can be controlled with one knob, as you claimed?

Again, without trying it myself, I can only guess, and it looks to me that the one LFO on the GUI is completely separate from the three task-specific ones.
Type, Send, and Routing, probably correspond to Waveform, Amount, and Target respectively on other synths.

ok, that still leaves you with.... FOUR LFOs... which was the whole point; that there's not just ONE LFO...

[e-crooner]

I am waiting to see how it is implemented because what you describe sounds unusual and I don't see it on the GUI.

Noone here still has been using this synth so far. You should wait with conclusions till you have used the product and built own sounds with it.

- The speed of all 4 LFOs can be changed.
- 3 of them can also synced to BPM.
- The waveform of 3 of them can be changed.
- One of them can be routed freely to many different targets. The routing of the others is fixed.

markus, who has created this plugin, is probably a reliable source of info about it...

But where did he say that those "4" LFO's can be controlled with one knob, as you claimed?

Again, without trying it myself, I can only guess, and it looks to me that the one LFO on the GUI is completely separate from the three task-specific ones.
Type, Send, and Routing, probably correspond to Waveform, Amount, and Target respectively on other synths.

ok, that still leaves you with.... FOUR LFOs... which was the whole point; that there's not just ONE LFO...

In the usual sense there is only one in my view. You know, the type of LFO that you assign via a mod matrix or slot. You decide what you want to do with it.
The vibrato LFO is fine with me because that is actually something I occasionally use an LFO for.
Not sure what exactly the two osc LFO's do. PWM?
I assume Loop Mode and Loop Speed are the parameters for those osc LFO's?

[fisherKing]

In the usual sense there is only one in my view.

"in the usual sense".... i give up.

[Erisian]

Just guessing, but maybe the one knob switches between the four LFOs? If it were just one knob with four routing options then it would just be one LFO but it sounds a little more interesting than that. We'll have to wait and see I suppose.

[Sinisterbr]

I am waiting to see how it is implemented because what you describe sounds unusual and I don't see it on the GUI.

Noone here still has been using this synth so far. You should wait with conclusions till you have used the product and built own sounds with it.

- The speed of all 4 LFOs can be changed.
- 3 of them can also synced to BPM.
- The waveform of 3 of them can be changed.
- One of them can be routed freely to many different targets. The routing of the others is fixed.

markus, who has created this plugin, is probably a reliable source of info about it...

But where did he say that those "4" LFO's can be controlled with one knob, as you claimed?

Again, without trying it myself, I can only guess, and it looks to me that the one LFO on the GUI is completely separate from the three task-specific ones.
Type, Send, and Routing, probably correspond to Waveform, Amount, and Target respectively on other synths.

ok, that still leaves you with.... FOUR LFOs... which was the whole point; that there's not just ONE LFO...

In the usual sense there is only one in my view. You know, the type of LFO that you assign via a mod matrix or slot. You decide what you want to do with it.
The vibrato LFO is fine with me because that is actually something I occasionally use an LFO for.
Not sure what exactly the two osc LFO's do. PWM?
I assume Loop Mode and Loop Speed are the parameters for those osc LFO's?

Agreed.
But I don't see any point about discussing this subject SO much as you all are doing.

[Teksonik]

if you've been around synths long enough, you can tell by the feature set what it's capable of (roughly)

If you've been around synths long enough then you should know that even synths that have the same feature set can sound very different. At this point you're just guessing how Warlock sounds. We're all just guessing but some of us are interested in actually hearing Warlock before we pass judgment and you've already made up your mind based on nothing more than a screenshot.

Ok whatever.

[Vortifex]

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[e-crooner]

Regarding the price, it is affordable, no doubt.
What is the competition? Maybe Tal Mod for 60 euros.

[zvenx]

What would this and Tal Mod have in common? (and if you are looking at price, the other Tal synths are 60 too, plus Tal stuff is very underpriced imho)
rsp

[e-crooner]

What would this and Tal Mod have in common? (and if you are looking at price, the other Tal synths are 60 too, plus Tal stuff is very underpriced imho)
rsp

Makes me wonder, what is the key selling point of this synth? What does it do that other synths don't?

With Mod it is the sound quality and the crazy mod capabilities, I suppose.

[chk071]

I think some should consider the price of this synth in relation to the price of his other synths, and maybe temper their expectations and/or complaints with regards to features accordingly.

That's the way I see it. You just won't get the same features as on the 150 € plus synths.

That said, it's irritating to announce 4 LFO's, when there's only one LFO, apart from the hardcoded stuff which is in every synth. A LFO working somewhere in the background code which can't be seen, or assigned to anything else isn't really something you'd put into the feature list. As far as I can see from the GUI, this synth has 1 LFO, and that one can't be assigned to everything. Which is cool. I don't expect a 59 € to be featured like a 199 € synth. Maybe one LFO is enough for most sounds, when there's some hardcoded modulations possible in the oscillator, or filter sections. Firebird didn't have a big feature set either, and it was still possible to do a lot with it.

It's just that I like facts. And, fact is, the synth has 1 LFO. Period. No hard feelings.

[fisherKing]

I think some should consider the price of this synth in relation to the price of his other synths, and maybe temper their expectations and/or complaints with regards to features accordingly.

That's the way I see it. You just won't get the same features as on the 150 € plus synths.

That said, it's irritating to announce 4 LFO's, when there's only one LFO, apart from the hardcoded stuff which is in every synth. A LFO working somewhere in the background code which can't be seen, or assigned to anything else isn't really something you'd put into the feature list. As far as I can see from the GUI, this synth has 1 LFO, and that one can't be assigned to everything. Which is cool. I don't expect a 59 € to be featured like a 199 € synth. Maybe one LFO is enough for most sounds, when there's some hardcoded modulations possible in the oscillator, or filter sections. Firebird didn't have a big feature set either, and it was still possible to do a lot with it.

It's just that I like facts. And, fact is, the synth has 1 LFO. Period. No hard feelings.

this may surprise you, but one knob does not have to mean one function. and the developer himself said there are FOUR LFOs... read his comments before you post yours.

and no one knows what this sounds like, feels like to work with. why not wait until we get there??

[U-o]

I'm impressed a lot. Loks similar to Firebird; easy to use interface - perfectly suited for me.

[AnX]

if you've been around synths long enough, you can tell by the feature set what it's capable of (roughly)

If you've been around synths long enough then you should know that even synths that have the same feature set can sound very different. At this point you're just guessing how Warlock sounds. We're all just guessing but some of us are interested in actually hearing Warlock before we pass judgment and you've already made up your mind based on nothing more than a screenshot.

Ok whatever.

you're just repeating yourself....

[AnX]

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It's just that I like facts. And, fact is, the synth has 1 LFO. Period. No hard feelings.

looks like facts don't seem to sink in very well

even if an lfo is hardwired to vibrato, it's still an lfo

even if all you can control is the speed, it's still an lfo

you seem to be claiming that unless all parameters are visible and it can be routed to any destination, its not an lfo..... that's not a fact. it might not meet your expectations, but that's irrelevant