KVR Audio

Tp3 · Post by **Tp3** » Sun Jul 11, 2010 9:02 am

Some day... this topic is going to be referred to in history books of the net...

(for its sheer magnitude)

skank · Post by **skank** » Mon Jul 12, 2010 9:40 am

Tp3 wrote:Some day... this topic is going to be referred to in history books of the net...
(for its sheer magnitude)

Well said.

LeVzi · Post by **LeVzi** » Mon Jul 12, 2010 11:52 am

Just out of interest, did anyone get any problems with the glue forgetting settings in a project when updating from 1.0.14 to 1.0.16 ?

andy-cytomic · Post by **andy-cytomic** » Mon Jul 12, 2010 12:41 pm

LeVzi wrote:Just out of interest, did anyone get any problems with the glue forgetting settings in a project when updating from 1.0.14 to 1.0.16 ?

The only time I've heard of anyone losing settings was due to a bug in Live 8.0.11 and its handling of audio units, which they have since fixed. Also if a trial version is used by mistake and the project saved then all settings will be lost since the trial version doesn't allow you to save. If either of these is not the case I would appreciate it if you could please send me a project file (no audio) where the settings don't recall, as then it will be very easy to let you know what the problem is.

LeVzi · Post by **LeVzi** » Mon Jul 12, 2010 2:09 pm

andy_cytomic wrote:
LeVzi wrote:Just out of interest, did anyone get any problems with the glue forgetting settings in a project when updating from 1.0.14 to 1.0.16 ?
The only time I've heard of anyone losing settings was due to a bug in Live 8.0.11 and its handling of audio units, which they have since fixed. Also if a trial version is used by mistake and the project saved then all settings will be lost since the trial version doesn't allow you to save. If either of these is not the case I would appreciate it if you could please send me a project file (no audio) where the settings don't recall, as then it will be very easy to let you know what the problem is.

I did Andy, send you the Cubase project with no audio, just the instances with the glue in it. I just thought id ask here as well, in case you were busy.

andy-cytomic · Post by **andy-cytomic** » Mon Jul 12, 2010 3:39 pm

LeVzi wrote:I did Andy, send you the Cubase project with no audio, just the instances with the glue in it. I just thought id ask here as well, in case you were busy.

Sorry for being slow to get back to you, I've just sent you an email with full details. Very briefly the project file you emailed has no setting for The Glue in it, which is why The Glue isn't recalling them. This could possibly come from some weird project file corruption, but is most likely caused by having saved the project with the trial version of The Glue, which has no data it saves as part of the trial limitations.

andy-cytomic · Post by **andy-cytomic** » Mon Jul 12, 2010 3:49 pm

andy_cytomic wrote:
LeVzi wrote:I did Andy, send you the Cubase project with no audio, just the instances with the glue in it. I just thought id ask here as well, in case you were busy.
Sorry for being slow to get back to you, I've just sent you an email with full details. Very briefly the project file you emailed has no setting for The Glue in it, which is why The Glue isn't recalling them. This could possibly come from some weird project file corruption, but is most likely caused by having saved the project with the trial version of The Glue, which has no data it saves as part of the trial limitations.

Scrap what I just said. There are settings in there, but Cubase isn't passing them through to The Glue for some reason. I tried loading a song saved with v1.0.16 with v1.0.14, and vice-versa without luck. For some reason Cubase thinks they are different plugins and won't pass the saved data through. I'll check into it further and get back to you. I'll also update to the latest version of Cubase to make sure it isn't a bug they have resolved at their end. So please don't save over any existing projects you are having trouble with.

andy-cytomic · Post by **andy-cytomic** » Mon Jul 12, 2010 8:04 pm

I've sorted out the cause of the issue. It is to do with a workaround for another host that has caused Cubase to think the saved settings no longer apply to the new version. I've already coded automatic detection for the other host and only change apply the workaround for it, and I'll release this in the next version. So many hosts, so many different things to support - it's a nightmare since every host does everything slightly differently.

LeVzi · Post by **LeVzi** » Tue Jul 13, 2010 9:18 am

Nice one Andy, all good, glad it can be sorted.

Must be a nightmare coding for all hosts.

Augsy · Post by **Augsy** » Wed Jul 14, 2010 3:36 am

having an issue with the trial version i downloaded the win64 link(since i am using windows 7 64bit) and extracted the rar file.

There is a .DLL file and the the installation setup guide. I copyed the .DLL file into my ableton live plug in folder and it doesnt show up....? I am missing something.....

Peevy2000 · Post by **Peevy2000** » Wed Jul 14, 2010 9:41 am

Augsy wrote:having an issue with the trial version i downloaded the win64 link(since i am using windows 7 64bit) and extracted the rar file.

There is a .DLL file and the the installation setup guide. I copyed the .DLL file into my ableton live plug in folder and it doesnt show up....? I am missing something.....

64-bit plugins only work within a 64-bit host DAW regardless of using win7 x64. As far as I'm aware ableton live is 32-bit (although I could be wrong about that since I don't use it) so try using the 32-bit version of The Glue instead.

andy-cytomic · Post by **andy-cytomic** » Wed Jul 14, 2010 9:53 am

Yep, as Peevy2000 has pointed out, Live is a 32 bit host, so you want the 32 bit version of The Glue to run in it. A 64 bit operating system can run either 32 bit or 64 bit programs, and it is the program that determines which plugin to use since a plugin in effect becomes part of the program. This 64 bits refers to how memory is addressed, nothing more. The Glue already uses 64 bit numbers internally for computation of the algorithms where needed, so there is no audible change between the 32 bit and 64 bit memory versions of The Glue. Clear as mud huh?

Augsy · Post by **Augsy** » Wed Jul 14, 2010 4:37 pm

Peevy2000 wrote:
Augsy wrote:having an issue with the trial version i downloaded the win64 link(since i am using windows 7 64bit) and extracted the rar file.

There is a .DLL file and the the installation setup guide. I copyed the .DLL file into my ableton live plug in folder and it doesnt show up....? I am missing something.....
64-bit plugins only work within a 64-bit host DAW regardless of using win7 x64. As far as I'm aware ableton live is 32-bit (although I could be wrong about that since I don't use it) so try using the 32-bit version of The Glue instead.

wow that was simple, thanks for the help.

andy-cytomic · Post by **andy-cytomic** » Fri Jul 16, 2010 10:55 pm

News: the beta of v1.0.18 is ready to download from customers accounts or as a trial version from the link below. This is what v1.0.16 with the new dsp algorithms should have been all along, got there eventually

www.cytomic.com/glue

v1.0.18
• Fixed: stopped writing of debugging file "LastLoadedXml.txt" to desktop

v1.0.17
• Fixed: bug in new auto release algorithm that caused wasted cpu
• Fixed: support for OS 10.4 for non 64-bit builds on Mac (wasn't working in v1.0.16)
• Fixed: now correctly loads Cubase settings that were saved with v1.0.15 or earlier

v1.0.16
• New: improved auto release with lower cpu and lower aliasing
• New: Improved analog modeling for analog sounding attacks
• New: Optimised analog modeling for greater efficiency
• New: 64-bit Mac Au
• New: 64-bit Win Vst
• New: Double click on outer notches of controls to jump to that value
• New: Double click in the centre of controls to enter text values
• New: Peak needle, optional, click on the VU to toggle
• New: Needle drawing with more accurate motion blur
• New: Logic 5.x support on Win (no ext sidechain)
• New: Adobe Premiere support (no ext sidechain)
• New: Wavelab 5.x support (no ext sidechain)
• Fixed: Wavelab 6 no longer hangs on startup
• Fixed: Keystrokes are passed to host more reliably
• Fixed: auto update of settings from v1.0.15 and before and match the
threshold

djanthonyw · Post by **djanthonyw** » Fri Jul 16, 2010 11:03 pm

andy_cytomic wrote:News: the beta of v1.0.18 is ready to download from customers accounts or as a trial version from the link below. This is what v1.0.16 with the new dsp algorithms should have been all along, got there eventually

www.cytomic.com/glue

v1.0.18
• Fixed: stopped writing of debugging file "LastLoadedXml.txt" to desktop

v1.0.17
• Fixed: bug in new auto release algorithm that caused wasted cpu
• Fixed: support for OS 10.4 for non 64-bit builds on Mac (wasn't working in v1.0.16)
• Fixed: now correctly loads Cubase settings that were saved with v1.0.15 or earlier

v1.0.16
• New: improved auto release with lower cpu and lower aliasing
• New: Improved analog modeling for analog sounding attacks
• New: Optimised analog modeling for greater efficiency
• New: 64-bit Mac Au
• New: 64-bit Win Vst
• New: Double click on outer notches of controls to jump to that value
• New: Double click in the centre of controls to enter text values
• New: Peak needle, optional, click on the VU to toggle
• New: Needle drawing with more accurate motion blur
• New: Logic 5.x support on Win (no ext sidechain)
• New: Adobe Premiere support (no ext sidechain)
• New: Wavelab 5.x support (no ext sidechain)
• Fixed: Wavelab 6 no longer hangs on startup
• Fixed: Keystrokes are passed to host more reliably
• Fixed: auto update of settings from v1.0.15 and before and match the
threshold

Cytomic 'The Glue' Compressor