Native Instruments Massive X Synth - Sequel to Massive (Out Now!)

[EvilDragon]

Hive 2 or Dune 3 don't sound like Massive X, tho.

[Digivolt]

Crossgrade 149,00 €

Eh ... no.

Yeah if I only owned Massive, there's no way I'd pay that for X

[chk071]

Hive 2 or Dune 3 don't sound like Massive X, tho.

Yeah, somehow not that... good.

(I know you didn't mean it that way )

[drdriller]

Hive 2 or Dune 3 don't sound like Massive X, tho.

I don't hear that difference..

[v1o]

Damn, this sounds gorgeous. Also, very good effects (not a given really). The Phaser can really go wild.

Are the envelopes as punchy as Spire?

[dune_rave]

I also have this synth as part of the bundle, but can't use it, because my current computer is not avx compatible.
Regarding what I see about MX, the GUI and the visual feedback is quite poor comparing it with Pigments, Hive, Avenger or Serum .... or Predator 2 ...Arturia DX7 , Synclavier etc
Anyway, I vote for "FM8 X" to come

[Yorrrrrr]

Does this make sense if I already have Hive 2 and DUNE 3?

[perpetual3]

Prepping for a massive ( ) wavetable shootout.

[Local Man]

My two cents.
The whole GUI looks very modern but somehow also outdated and partly "over complicated". Often functions are not self-explanatory, a "quick help" or "tooltip" would often be helpful.

I agree. Diving into this blindly today was quite a byzantine experience. It feels like it is designed for people who just want to fiddle around and stumble into something magical.
That said, it doesn't do such a bad job at that.
It sounds great. I personally like to have a better understanding of what I am doing and to me this thing is completely non-intuitive. I'm sure a deep dive into the manual will be a very rewarding experience (whenever I get a chance to do that).

Ultimately all the cryptic nonsense kind of makes sense because where else do you go with synthesis at this point? I think it's harder and harder to make something that's revolutionary so instead you can make something that is somewhat personal and idiosyncratic. I'm just going to have to put some time into understanding it's quirks.

The presets are pretty funny. Lots of pitch shifting wackiness that sounds very nice on its own but would be kind of tricky to shoehorn into any traditional musical arrangement.
And plenty of just press a key and they already made the song for you patches.

Overall, I am very excited by the possibilities of this thing. So many unbelievably cool tools at our disposal nowadays.

[Spirit2017]

Massive X very bad presets like Pigments nothing new all sounds the same even Hive 2.What is wrong with the synthesizer of today?It is time for a synth emulation of the K5000.I have enough of Wavetable crap and synths without a soul.

[emasters]

Crossgrade 149,00 €

Eh ... no.

They definitely could have done with $99 crossgrade from Massive 1.

Yes

[DJ Warmonger]

Why the heck this takes 1,6 GB to install while there's still separate preset library

EDIT: I think there's wrong info in Native Access, the synth + files take 74 MB, while presets another 60 MB.

[KBSoundSmith]

Massive X very bad presets like Pigments nothing new all sounds the same even Hive 2.What is wrong with the synthesizer of today?It is time for a synth emulation of the K5000.I have enough of Wavetable crap and synths without a soul.

If you can't get a good sound of Hive 2, the synth isn't the problem.

I haven't been able to get the M-X demo installed yet, but after hearing sound examples, demoing Pigments, and purchasing Hive, they very bluntly sound nothing alike.

And there's nothing inherently good/bad about wavetables. They aren't soulful or soulless. They are raw material, that's it -- WT are useful because they efficiently provide a lot of raw material. I think half the reason people think they aren't "good" is because the dip shits feel the need to scan the full table in one go. Then they fail to take advantage of the modulation options to shape and mature a sound, because "that's too difficult... need something intuitive (dumbed down)."

And if you think nostalgia for an ancient digital synth (which can't hold a candle to modern quality and power) is going to magically make synths interesting for you, again, the problem isn't Hive, Pigments, or Massive X.

[ghettosynth]

My two cents.
The whole GUI looks very modern but somehow also outdated and partly "over complicated". Often functions are not self-explanatory, a "quick help" or "tooltip" would often be helpful.

I agree. Diving into this blindly today was quite a byzantine experience. It feels like it is designed for people who just want to fiddle around and stumble into something magical.
That said, it doesn't do such a bad job at that.
It sounds great. I personally like to have a better understanding of what I am doing and to me this thing is completely non-intuitive. I'm sure a deep dive into the manual will be a very rewarding experience (whenever I get a chance to do that).

Ultimately all the cryptic nonsense kind of makes sense because where else do you go with synthesis at this point? I think it's harder and harder to make something that's revolutionary so instead you can make something that is somewhat personal and idiosyncratic. I'm just going to have to put some time into understanding it's quirks.

The presets are pretty funny. Lots of pitch shifting wackiness that sounds very nice on its own but would be kind of tricky to shoehorn into any traditional musical arrangement.
And plenty of just press a key and they already made the song for you patches.

Overall, I am very excited by the possibilities of this thing. So many unbelievably cool tools at our disposal nowadays.

Try this: Click on the route button, then cycle through presets. It really helps to be able to see the routing when you're hearing the sound for the first time. It should start to settle in very quickly how things work together.

[Stefken]

My two cents.
The whole GUI looks very modern but somehow also outdated and partly "over complicated". Often functions are not self-explanatory, a "quick help" or "tooltip" would often be helpful.

Ultimately all the cryptic nonsense kind of makes sense because where else do you go with synthesis at this point? I think it's harder and harder to make something that's revolutionary so instead you can make something that is somewhat personal and idiosyncratic.

I disagree. They had time to make icons of gorilla's, a factory, water whatever. They had better used that time to work on the UX. Making a mess of things is easy. Making complex things transparent is not.