KVR Audio

ianweb123 · Post by **ianweb123** » Wed Oct 05, 2005 11:30 pm

Chase wrote:i think every dev should be like jack dark and make different GUI's for every plug

What? Do you men that every plug has a different look from the last one or muliple GUIs for the same Plug ?

flex42 · Post by **flex42** » Wed Oct 05, 2005 11:54 pm

what a beast!! thanks a lot guys! i love it...

tconrardy · Post by **tconrardy** » Thu Oct 06, 2005 12:45 am

flex42 wrote:what a beast!! thanks a lot guys! i love it...

well..I guess it's a swan..so I guess its a beast, although I don't regard swans as beasts.

how about a Starry beast?

vurt · Post by **vurt** » Thu Oct 06, 2005 12:47 am

i killed a swan once...

tconrardy · Post by **tconrardy** » Thu Oct 06, 2005 12:49 am

vurt wrote:i killed a swan once...

Did it taste like chicken?

ouroboros · Post by **ouroboros** » Thu Oct 06, 2005 12:51 am

the killing or the swan?

vurt · Post by **vurt** » Thu Oct 06, 2005 12:51 am

more like goose(which iwhat we were hunting,it was only my second time out,12/13 years old,big bird flys out the mist "BAM!" how am i supposed to know the difference

)

emdot_ambient · Post by **emdot_ambient** » Thu Oct 06, 2005 1:13 am

ianweb123 wrote:
emdot_ambient wrote:So I try to turn the Attack and the Decay moves instead.
I admit that but feel that it is part of the charm.. ..and FFS I've dropped enough hints now that there is a solution up & coming for those that find the GUI a little hard to take...

Woah, easy thar pardner!

I'm not usually one for wacky GUI's (I detest the "artistic" ohmforce GUI's) but this one doesn't upset me in the least. I was just pointing out a minor issue I had with it. I run my monitor at 1280 x 1024 so I'm used to fiddling with tiny knobs that are hard to grab. Just didn't know if this problem had been pointed out.

Fix it. Or not.

rockstar_not · Post by **rockstar_not** » Thu Oct 06, 2005 2:49 am

emdot_ambient wrote:
2) I find that often when my mouse pointer is very close to, but not exactly on, one of the "knobs" it's actaully still controling a "knob" farther away. So I try to turn the Attack and the Decay moves instead.

Emdot,

That's exactly what I'm actually trying to suggest with this GUI.

This is the first synth where I really just want to be Zen with it and blindly grab controls with the mouse and twirl away.

I would love a 'random' button - that just assigns random values to all parameters. I would assign automation to that random button 'seed' and just let the synth sing away to see what happens.

-Scott

Frippertronix · Post by **Frippertronix** » Thu Oct 06, 2005 3:03 am

Yea, this is cool for that "trippy" feeling I so often crave but just somehow can't manage (sort of like that elusive "fresh" feeling).

Seriously, though, very interesting plug. Thanks very much!

Dave

JackDark · Post by **JackDark** » Thu Oct 06, 2005 3:43 am

I'm way late on this... but...

Cygnus is definitely my favorite Krakli synth every! The GUI is unique, and innovative, and the sound is grand. Tis a keeper in my folder. Bravo!

ianweb123 · Post by **ianweb123** » Thu Oct 06, 2005 7:06 am

emdot_ambient wrote:Woah, easy thar pardner!

Must make a note to self not to use the FFS abbreviation, even in Jest as was intented.. As it obviously makes people think that I am losing my rag..

emdot you are right about the controls and I found myself using the wrong knob occasionally, but I feel that it part of the price to pay for experimenting with something different GUI-wise.. Part of the fun for me is trying out different GUIs and interface ideas, and of course these are not always as good to use as the standard knob or slider..

PeterL · Post by **PeterL** » Thu Oct 06, 2005 7:15 am

The GUI is very innovative. I like it.
Also the screaming vurtbox with its morphing numbers.

I have currently no use for Cygnus.
Although it offers interesting sounds, I have to watch the STAR-TREK series more often to get inspired. Scottie, beam me up.

tconrardy · Post by **tconrardy** » Thu Oct 06, 2005 3:33 pm

PeterL wrote:The GUI is very innovative. I like it.
Also the screaming vurtbox with its morphing numbers.
I have currently no use for Cygnus.
Although it offers interesting sounds, I have to watch the STAR-TREK series more often to get inspired. Scottie, beam me up.

well...yeah..its a space synth..so if you don't do space music, you won't use it.Although I am sure B&B sounds could be produced from it . Just like our M42 nebula was first produced for space sounds..but I found it can do some excellent B&B too, and made a patch bank to show it.( the second bank for registered users)

However you might like the new thing Ian has up his sleeve for it.

( how many hints do we have to drop here ??

emdot_ambient · Post by **emdot_ambient** » Thu Oct 06, 2005 3:58 pm

ianweb123 wrote:
emdot_ambient wrote:Woah, easy thar pardner!
Must make a note to self not to use the FFS abbreviation, even in Jest as was intented.. As it obviously makes people think that I am losing my rag..

Just wanted to make sure you didn't take my GUI comments the wrong way. I learned synth programming by randomly twiddling sliders on an ARP Axxe, so I can appreciate that kind of exploritory programming--Sofia being the best example of a totally exploritory experience--but once you get to know a synth enough that you start programming from a conceptual ("I want to create this kind of sound") approach, having the wrong knob suddenly start moving when you try and adjust a parameter is a litte (a little) annoying. It's a minor niggle.

I've started working on more presets, BTW

FFS

That reminded me of a friend of mine who programmed and runs a Play By Email game. He was constantly responding to "How do you do this simple thing" questions with the blunt statement: RTFM.

Needless to say, he had to tame that a bit so that newbies would continue to want to participate.

Tim Conrardy's CYGNUS - Both GUIs now available