GSCW DRUMS - Samples - FREE - Full kits

[Sascha Franck]

Cheers Sascha,

If that's the best way to get the volume of the toms up to the rest of the kit then that would be great.
....although just boosting up the toms to the level of the snare/kick/etc... would be good

I'll leave it to you....I don't know what's easier for you.

Hah - just load the patches and enjoy.
I could of course do a new single patch, but I think it's much nicer this way, as you have individual control about almost anything.
Sure, you're "wasting" a complete multi for drums, but hey - you can easily assign them to individual outs this way as well.

[GIRO]

Firstly I must say that this kit sounds great.
I loaded Kit 1 into Kompakt using the Battery template thingy.
It took a little time but it found all the samples eventually.

Now I don't want to 'look a gift horse in the mouth' as the saying goes but......

I noticed that the Toms are a fair bit quieter than most other things (snare, kit, hats, etc..)

Now is this just perhaps because of some quirk of importing a battery kit into Kompakt - maybe something to do with velocities getting screwed up.....

or are they just plain quieter??

Disclaimer:
Please note!
This library was created with HALion 2.0.3.5 You may not experience
the full potential of this library with some other formats.
The user's patches may not reflect the full capacity of this library...
MP3 Demo: by Salvador Pelaez
http://home.comcast.net/~gsmedia/Alternaloid.mp3
http://home.comcast.net/~gsmedia/combo-colate.mp3
http://home.comcast.net/~gsmedia/gscwperf_Cymbals.mp3
HALion Map:
http://home.comcast.net/~gsmedia/gs...-halion-map.jpg
http://home.comcast.net/~gsmedia/GSCW-map-kit-2.jpg
http://home.comcast.net/~gsmedia/cymbal-perfm-map.jpg

It is very difficult not to loose the original feel of a library when converted.... But these guys are doing their best to keep it as orininal as possible..

It is good to have all samples into Zones or "Folders"(HALion) so you can have an overall control of certain parameters.. by doing this, you can just assign the toms to a stereo output and control the volumen

An other great conversion from waiting man is his version for the NN-XT sampler (REASON)
It is 99% accurate..

MANY THANX TO SASCH FRANCK for his time remapping, converting and assisting you all....

[pljones]

I use sfz - I just load up several instances and route them to different mixer channels, then ensure, say, the hihat plays on ch2 and I use a master limiter to boost the level on ch2. Only one lot of samples get loaded no matter how many sfz instances you load, so it's the same as having multiple outs, really, just not quite as easy (same map loaded into each instance).

(Unlike Spe3d's) My sfz maps were done from the display in ExSC of the original Halion maps and cater for the samples not being normalised (and don't require any moving around of samples, so nothing gets overwritten). Even so, the Kit 2 high tom is much quieter than the floor tom - although, it sounds pretty much that that's how the kit was miked (there's slightly more "ambience" on the high tom, too).

[Hypertone]

These kits are great, much thanks to the developer for making them free. Good stuff.

[GIRO]

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.............(Unlike Spe3d's) My sfz maps were done from the display in ExSC of the original Halion maps and cater for the samples not being normalised (and don't require any moving around of samples, so nothing gets overwritten). Even so, the Kit 2 high tom is much quieter than the floor tom - although, it sounds pretty much that that's how the kit was miked (there's slightly more "ambience" on the high tom, too).

Hmmmm!....Disclaimer for you...
Samples should be set as individual instruments with-in a patch.... As the Original is!
Control over the instruments is a breeze! If I have the floor to hot!?? a quick fader -2db for that drum will do!.... mmm... Mixing..
TOM TOM 13" is on its on parameter(FOLDER)and it can be mixed freely in the original Format!
Hi tom (10" tom) is much closer to the Snare drums thus making the Snare to rattle more than the other toms... THUS making it a little more open in the stereo image.... more "ambience" there's no REVERB.
Also the 10" tom is tuned to a higher pitch ...

They all are in the same room... no reverb added..

I know you love them!

[SWTrex]

I use sfz - I just load up several instances and route them to different mixer channels, then ensure, say, the hihat plays on ch2 and I use a master limiter to boost the level on ch2. Only one lot of samples get loaded no matter how many sfz instances you load, so it's the same as having multiple outs, really, just not quite as easy (same map loaded into each instance).

(snip)

Did I understand you correctly? If I load the same sfz mapping in multiple instances of sfz, the samples are loaded into memory just once? If so, this is great news

Does this hold true for soundfonts in sfz also?

I have avoided what you suggested because I figured that I would quickly fill up my memory with multiple loadings of the same set of samples.

SWTrex

[pljones]

Hmmmm!....Disclaimer for you...

I did include the disclaimer when I posted on eDrumming and AlternateMode forums... I need to add it to the top of the sfz files, though, really, don't I..? I was going to do some more work on them mappings but, well, they don't need it... I'll get them "officially" onto my sfz mappings pages this weekend with the disclaimer in place. They're only linked from this thread (with no disclaimer) and the other two postings (with disclaimer)... 2 outta 3 ain't bad...

Did I understand you correctly? If I load the same sfz mapping in multiple instances of sfz, the samples are loaded into memory just once? If so, this is great news

Does this hold true for soundfonts in sfz also?

Yes and I believe so for SF2s (AFAIK for SF2s -- I use sfz+ for sf2s generally, so it's not an issue for me).

[GIRO]

="pljones"I did include the disclaimer when I posted on eDrumming and AlternateMode forums... I need to add it to the top of the sfz files, though, really, don't I..? I was going to do some more work on them mappings but, well, they don't need it... I'll get them "officially" onto my sfz mappings pages this weekend with the disclaimer in place. They're only linked from this thread (with no disclaimer) and the other two postings (with disclaimer)... 2 outta 3 ain't bad...

It is a good thing!...But I was trying to inform you about the way the library works from a original point of view...

I'm very happy with the NN-XT version by Waiting Man. It is a great job! 99% . But the snare roll has too much release... it should cut quicker or set up in a mute group along with the rimshot!
The snare roll has loop points.. If you set it to loop, you can kill it with the rimshot.....

I think it was my fault for not pointing that out...
SORRY DUDE!!!!!

This is the midi performance that waiting man did on a V-Drum set. http://home.comcast.net/~gscw/gs-drums-on-v-drums.mp3 I played it back with the original HALion format...WOW.... very cool! .... I did edit a bit. I added the cymbal choke..

CHEERS

[GIRO]

CONGAS Are coming soom too!

[Pantsdown666]

CONGAS Are coming soom too!

[oddbods finger]

Allright, did it just the way I mentioned:
http://home.arcor.de/s.franck/temp/Batt ... Extras.zip
There's Battery (1) files for each instrument group and two Kompakt multis with the individual instruments spread over 5 slots inside the zip.

These are cool.
Thanks again Sasha..you are a gent

[waiting man]

congas...yum.
nice to hear that Sal.

the rim muting the roll...that was the second mute zone in you halion jpeg, right? I was wondering what was that for...

now that I figure it, to do that in nn-xt I have to set a monophonic group for the rim (and the roll) and having a mono rimshot is (imo) weird. I'll update the refill soon.

[GIRO]

congas...yum.
nice to hear that Sal.

the rim muting the roll...that was the second mute zone in you halion jpeg, right? I was wondering what was that for...

now that I figure it, to do that in nn-xt I have to set a monophonic group for the rim (and the roll) and having a mono rimshot is (imo) weird. I'll update the refill soon.

Its ok to have the rimshot in a mute group with the snare roll... A#0(Rimshot) can cancel G#0 Snare Roll
That would be mute group 3

Hmmmm you didn't get the colored muting groups?....

Mute Groups 1 and 2 are for the Hi Hats..
The hats on mute group 1 will cancel each other and so on with mute group 2... By Doing this you can play the hats more naturally... and you don't get that cut out CL-hihat effect when they all are in the same mute group... the same with the open hats...
You can play A#1 and A#2 and have a much better result..
Mute group1(F#1-G#1-A#1) Mute Group2(F#2-G#2-A#2)

SO! mute group 3 would be for the roll and rimshot...
The Rimshot is just for accenting here and there... you wont miss the polyphony on that one....

On the Firt jpeg map that I posted, Kit 1, I made a typo on the mute group... Should read ,, mute group 1 and 2... not 2 and 2.....Sorry!
red could be mute 1 and blue could be mute 2..

If you prefer to have the rimshot poly, then just leave it like it is but have the roll to cut faster...!

[Pantsdown666]

Finally got to hear these in Waiting Man's Reason kits ... what a fantastic kit, many thanks GIRO and Waiting man

[GIRO]

Finally got to hear these in Waiting Man's Reason kits ... what a fantastic kit, many thanks GIRO and Waiting man

You are welcome.... Enjoy.....
I have a Conga set to upload.....

LP Quinto & Conga... Classic congas
plenty vel.... It is in SF2 format And I have the HALion format too.
It started as Sf2 a while back... MONO Wav.

I have to make a demo for you listen!