KVR Audio

Numanoid · Post by **Numanoid** » Tue Jul 14, 2015 3:48 pm

Each to his own.

I'm quite happy with my registered copy of V-Station v2.2

Sounds damn fine, very hands on, easy to dial in sounds, uses little CPU.

I just with the arp could have been a bit more feature packed.

Wildfunk · Post by **Wildfunk** » Tue Jul 14, 2015 3:49 pm

chk071 wrote:Btw, just a reminder: Novation is the company which refrained from developing any more software instruments due the V-Station being cracked after 2 weeks.

Is this my problem? Why didn't they have used a better protection? Is this a reason to release "updates" with many bugs?

Numanoid · Post by **Numanoid** » Tue Jul 14, 2015 3:55 pm

Let's bump these wise words from Mr. EvilDragon

EvilDragon wrote:C-R is not a problem, you guys are bloody overreacting! You can generate the licence file from a computer that's online, then just transfer the file to your DAW and install it. Totally a non-issue. The file even gets e-mailed to you so you can use it on any number of computers, and basically as I figured it out, you just do this once and you're done with it.

A complete non issue.

+1 Amen to that

KingClarkie · Post by **KingClarkie** » Tue Jul 14, 2015 5:10 pm

Numanoid wrote:Let's bump these wise words from Mr. EvilDragon
EvilDragon wrote:C-R is not a problem, you guys are bloody overreacting! You can generate the licence file from a computer that's online, then just transfer the file to your DAW and install it. Totally a non-issue. The file even gets e-mailed to you so you can use it on any number of computers, and basically as I figured it out, you just do this once and you're done with it.

A complete non issue.
+1 Amen to that

They may once have been wise words but not anymore. The Novation/Focusrite plugin activation is tied to the machine on which the activation request is generated, as shown in this screenshot from the activation video posted earlier.

blakecasimir · Post by **blakecasimir** » Tue Jul 14, 2015 5:49 pm

I suspected this might be the case. Most C/R protection relies upon the "source" computer generating a type of system key from which an unlock code is generated.

I already have a KS5 and KS-Rack, so the V-Station isn't really useful to me. Now that Focusrite/Novation have gone the C/R route I'm rather disappointed and will think twice before considering their software in future. Shame, I'm happy with the Novation hardware I have!

Numanoid · Post by **Numanoid** » Tue Jul 14, 2015 5:53 pm

chis wrote:will think twice before considering their software in future.

Is there a lot to think about...?

If you got the MusicTech mag you basically have got the software Novation produces.

The rest is apps to assist their hardware.

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Tue Jul 14, 2015 6:08 pm

There's not much to consider in the future anyway. As i wrote, they refrained to release any more software after the V-Station anyway, due to it being cracked after the shortest time... so much for the need of a good protection. It's a sad story for me.

Wildfunk · Post by **Wildfunk** » Tue Jul 14, 2015 6:28 pm

chk071 wrote:There's not much to consider in the future anyway. As i wrote, they refrained to release any more software after the V-Station anyway, due to it being cracked after the shortest time... so much for the need of a good protection. It's a sad story for me.

What do you expect? Plugin versions of Xio, Ultranova etc? Why should they do that?

The V is great but it was a mistake to just create an exact clone of a hardware synth.

I mean the V even can't generate a clean sine: http://www.wildfunk.com/v.wav ... also only 8 voices.

Numanoid · Post by **Numanoid** » Tue Jul 14, 2015 6:31 pm

chk071 wrote:There's not much to consider in the future anyway.

The plugin market for VST/Mac is pretty overcrowded

They should release Bass Station for the iPad, would sell bucket loads at the kind of low prices iOS plugs are being sold at

D-Fusion · Post by **D-Fusion** » Tue Jul 14, 2015 6:42 pm

chk071 wrote:There's not much to consider in the future anyway. As i wrote, they refrained to release any more software after the V-Station anyway, due to it being cracked after the shortest time... so much for the need of a good protection. It's a sad story for me.

That is the same reason why Korg stopped after the legacy collection :/
Roland is now testing the vst crowd these days and i hope the same won't happen with them.
Then it will be the end of pluggouts/Plugin from them too.

robotmonkey · Post by **robotmonkey** » Tue Jul 14, 2015 6:46 pm

Numanoid wrote:Hello, talk about going outside topic, Emulator X3 what's that got to do with Novation/V-Station

It seems user can't get served a freebie (or close to that) without turning it into yet another copy protection bashing fest

It was an example to chk071 why C/R generally sucks and why compatibility problems are the lesser ones compared to bad C/R.

And as I said before, as it's free I'm not complaining at all. But anyways none of that stuff is that important or must-have anyways. Synths are pretty competent but your basic VA stuff. Midnight Suite seems to be quite ok but another EQ or Compressor are the last things I need. Though they are actually fairly pleasant to use, so I might keep them installed.

Numanoid · Post by **Numanoid** » Tue Jul 14, 2015 7:28 pm

robotmonkey wrote:It was an example to chk071 why C/R generally sucks and why compatibility problems are the lesser ones compared to bad C/R.

But this is a thread about V-Station

It is not the place to lambaste C/R because of worries that an other company could go belly up

Novation has got nothing to do with Creative, and this thread wasn't created to discuss C/R, but to discuss V-Station.

KingClarkie · Post by **KingClarkie** » Tue Jul 14, 2015 9:53 pm

chk071 wrote:There's not much to consider in the future anyway. As i wrote, they refrained to release any more software after the V-Station anyway, due to it being cracked after the shortest time... so much for the need of a good protection. It's a sad story for me.

Some background info here:

robotmonkey · Post by **robotmonkey** » Wed Jul 15, 2015 4:05 am

KingClarkie wrote:
chk071 wrote:There's not much to consider in the future anyway. As i wrote, they refrained to release any more software after the V-Station anyway, due to it being cracked after the shortest time... so much for the need of a good protection. It's a sad story for me.
Some background info here:

Why should we feel sad? Because it was cracked? How could this come them as a surprise? And why should we care that they threw a hissy fit and decided to quit the vst market crying. Why is it that even though everything is cracked some companies do get a lot of customers and make ends meet (at least!) while others don't? And no, it has nothing to do with better copy protection.

robotmonkey · Post by **robotmonkey** » Wed Jul 15, 2015 4:44 am

Numanoid wrote:
robotmonkey wrote:It was an example to chk071 why C/R generally sucks and why compatibility problems are the lesser ones compared to bad C/R.
But this is a thread about V-Station

It is not the place to lambaste C/R because of worries that an other company could go belly up

Novation has got nothing to do with Creative, and this thread wasn't created to discuss C/R, but to discuss V-Station.

As the copy protection is an integral part of the product I think the discussion is fair and completely justified. As the products were free, I see no reason to complain much but nonetheless. And by the way, just for the record, I did not start this discussion, just replying to already ongoing one.

V-Station 2.0 is out (64 bit)