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David Else · Post by **David Else** » Fri Sep 06, 2013 9:44 pm

4damind wrote:I installed the Satin Beta again to give it another try.
It seems that the demo limitations are a lot heavier after 2min. So I tried to open and export it as quick as possible
This is a small track I made (but not finished yet) and where I put 10x Satin on it with settings relatively close to Slate VTM. Drums and stuff are grouped so I need only 10x Satin (the song has some more tracks).

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/854 ... in_mix.mp3

Cheers! Any chance of the same mix without Satin matched at the same RMS volume? Would be great to compare on electronic music.

Pädy · Post by **Pädy** » Fri Sep 06, 2013 10:32 pm

Recorded with a single mic, a little reverb and Satin:

zentatonic · Post by **zentatonic** » Fri Sep 06, 2013 11:44 pm

Very nice, Pädy. Dug it sir.

Pädy · Post by **Pädy** » Sat Sep 07, 2013 11:46 am

Thank you, zentatonic!

Spitfire31 · Post by **Spitfire31** » Sat Sep 07, 2013 5:09 pm

That's real music! My kinda music, I might add.

Nice playing. Thank you!

Kind regards,

Joachim

MFXxx · Post by **MFXxx** » Sat Sep 07, 2013 5:52 pm

Pädy wrote:Recorded with a single mic, a little reverb and Satin:

Great playing and love well played blues, spot on.

There's a lovely vibe coming out on that recording, giving it a very retro feel. Almost as the musical recording a different decade in time to the video. Not sure if that's down to the mic used or Satin ;#)

Urs · Post by **Urs** » Sat Sep 07, 2013 5:57 pm

Yep, great Blues

I think we'll have a blues demo too... soon...

Pädy · Post by **Pädy** » Sat Sep 07, 2013 6:51 pm

Thanks guys - much appreciated!

@ Urs - If you need a little help with some before and after guitar tones - I'm happy to oblige!

Pädy · Post by **Pädy** » Sat Sep 07, 2013 6:59 pm

MFXxx wrote:Almost as the musical recording a different decade in time to the video. Not sure if that's down to the mic used or Satin ;#)

Well, it's as much the guitar (59' reissue Les Paul), the settings of the guitar and amp, as it is the playing. But let me tell you that Satin really brought it all together. Without it, the bass end lacks definition, the highs are to shrill and the lovely tape compression would be missing. Satin is really nothing short of a revelation to me.

ZenRunner · Post by **ZenRunner** » Sat Sep 07, 2013 8:04 pm

Nice playing and great tone, Pädy!

I think I see a Satin purchase in my immediate future.

momalle3 · Post by **momalle3** » Sat Sep 07, 2013 9:00 pm

I spent a good deal of time yesterday and today mixing three tracks from an acoustic jazz band. I used Satin in place of Slate VTM

VTM is good, and it does what it's supposed to. Satin IMHO is just as good or better at the basic saturation mode, although it's slightly harder to work with because you end up doing more tweaking. Hard not to when the parameters are there to tweak. But I'm reaching for Satin ahead of VTM

I found that using Satin on all five tracks and the master buss introduced a lot of hiss, even when I had the "hiss" control dialed back pretty far. More hiss than slate adds. It can be dialed out but the ratio is very different

4damind · Post by **4damind** » Sun Sep 08, 2013 10:01 pm

David Else wrote:Cheers! Any chance of the same mix without Satin matched at the same RMS volume? Would be great to compare on electronic music.

I have the Slate VTM version. But not very usable for a 1:1 comparison because both sounding different and cannot be completely matched but it gives eventually a idea. Anyway...

Satin version (now without crackles because I have the full version):
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/854 ... in_mix.mp3

Slate VTM version:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/854 ... r_face.mp3

David Else · Post by **David Else** » Mon Sep 09, 2013 12:01 am

4damind wrote:
David Else wrote:Cheers! Any chance of the same mix without Satin matched at the same RMS volume? Would be great to compare on electronic music.
I have the Slate VTM version. But not very usable for a 1:1 comparison because both sounding different and cannot be completely matched but it gives eventually a idea. Anyway...

Satin version (now without crackles because I have the full version):
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/854 ... in_mix.mp3

Slate VTM version:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/854 ... r_face.mp3

Cheers! I am going to demo Satin properly soon, it sounds great in the demos.

Slate · Post by **Slate** » Tue Sep 10, 2013 4:09 am

I have not had a chance to try the new Satin demo, but from what I've heard of the posted examples, VTM and Satin sound quite different, and the saturation tonality sounds different.. so as I suspected, it seems that they would compliment each other in the engineer's toolbox. When I bought my first LA-2A vintage compressor, I didn't replace it the next year when I bought a vintage 1176 compressor. They had different flavors that I liked, so i used both.

More quality tools are a good thing. Congrats again to Urs, Sascha, and the U-HE team.

Cheers,
Steven

Urs · Post by **Urs** » Tue Sep 10, 2013 5:41 am

Thanks Steven, very appreciated

u-he Satin or Slate VTM?