KVR Audio

eraze the borders · Post by **eraze the borders** » Mon Oct 23, 2017 8:46 am

ckoe wrote:Hi folks,

here is my piece of music for this competition. It is the first time I'm take part.

I think no one has welcomed you yet...

Welcome to OSC

Nice song for a first try.

Taron · Post by **Taron** » Mon Oct 23, 2017 8:50 am

Ahahaha, you guys are funny, Trojak and H-man!

Trojak, you've done some hard work on your wavetables, but you went for "reconstruction" of a single, large wavefile, creating the dreadful formant shifting that happens when you pitch a sample. It ends up sounding, well, like a single sample, pitched around. You've done some beautiful modulating with dynamics and time, but it really only works in a very, very narrow range of notes, I find.
Yet, you're absolutely right about the powerful influence, even necessary influence the FX are meant to have on even the most delicate wavetables. Things such as "Fundamental" and "Scale" provide great access to model the body of any fine wavetable, while filter and choplift provide essential character adjustments, of course. Even turbulence can be powerful to bring life into a wavetable.
The other FX have such severe impact on a waveform that it feels most appropriate to use them with differently modeled waveforms, such as using spectral or very basic geo shapes. You can make the most outstandingly nuanced sounds that way, likely more natural and possibly more complex than any meticulously crafted "recreation" wavetable. This way you can make sounds that function for the entire note range and maintain a consistent character throughout. Especially if you make use of KeyFollow and possible even use Phase with PWM, also using KeyFollow. Very powerful features.

So, everything matters and everything has its own kind of powers. I'm still pissed at the Sync position in the chain and I would truly love a second modulation on the wavetable position (KeyFollow + LFO, for example, or + MSEG or ENV, providing Velocity as well that way).
Anyway, so, yeah...
...most interesting, I find, is that you provide perfect examples for what makes Zebralette a synth that can sound utterly different from user to user. That's pretty neat!

Hanz Meyzer · Post by **Hanz Meyzer** » Mon Oct 23, 2017 9:19 am

Hey guys,

any tips how I am doing a proper tom drum sound with Zebralette? Can I add somehow saturation like clipping within Zebralette? Also the filter seems to be weird to me (only as OSC modificator?), is there a way have a lowpass filter?

H-man · Post by **H-man** » Mon Oct 23, 2017 9:20 am

Yes Taron, certainly a vast set of possibilities with this one

I have started all this late in the month so am possibly quite behind in my understanding of the synth, and in particular the spectral FX (and even more in particular, running the spectral FX in series

). I did notice tho that there is not automation parameter for the wave form resolution so I mapped it to a midi control but again have yet to find a use for it.

Oh well, back to the lab I suppose...

H-man · Post by **H-man** » Mon Oct 23, 2017 9:22 am

Hanz Meyzer wrote:Hey guys,

any tips how I am doing a proper tom drum sound with Zebralette? Can I add somehow saturation like clipping within Zebralette? Also the filter seems to be weird to me (only as OSC modificator?), is there a way have a lowpass filter?

You're going to need the manual Hanz but yes, there are High/Low and Bandpass/Notch filters available.

ckoe · Post by **ckoe** » Mon Oct 23, 2017 9:24 am

eraze the borders wrote:
ckoe wrote:Hi folks,

here is my piece of music for this competition. It is the first time I'm take part.
I think no one has welcomed you yet...

Welcome to OSC

Nice song for a first try.

Thanks a lot. I'm proud to be a part of this contest. I hope I will be better next time, but for now this must be enough.

TrojakEW · Post by **TrojakEW** » Mon Oct 23, 2017 9:27 am

You are right Taron. I tried both methods and find that using complex waveshape is better because there is only one slot for modulation. It doesnt matter what way you choose you still need to have more combinations like keyfollow+velocity in order to make it better (you missing this options too

). So I rather choose this way even with limited range with ability to put more details on shaping dynamics and so on. That you need to adjust theme/melody to use proper keyrange

.

But if you you are using synth for non accoustic emulation - using fx to create body is better.

Well maybe with more time with this synth can reveal another way to fake things out, but it is my first time I'm using this synth so that's just the begining. I kind like this synth and can't imageine what full Zebra can do (not going to try demo).

TheNeverScene · Post by **TheNeverScene** » Mon Oct 23, 2017 1:22 pm

H-man wrote:Feels more like a "lottery system"

Hahaha....yep!!

Local Man · Post by **Local Man** » Mon Oct 23, 2017 8:42 pm

Hello all.
I thought I'd post my close to finished work in progress here with a week to go to see if I could solicit some feedback. I don't know that I've taken to zebralette as strongly as some of the others here but I have had some fun with it. Anyway I'd love to hear what you guys think because I'm still considering changing some things up. Thanks for listening!

https://soundcloud.com/user-44872685/al ... ppy-people

JKF Flashico · Post by **JKF Flashico** » Tue Oct 24, 2017 8:02 am

Hi for everyone! I have changed my track so here is my new track. This is really great synth to

makes so many different sounds and I really enjoyed to create sounds with this synth. Hope you

enjoy!

Instances 29 I have tweaked only two instruments. Other 26 are from init.

Daw is Cubase Pro 8

Daw effects are: standard EQ *28, Gate *2, Compressor *2, PingPongDelay *2, EQ 30 *1

3rd parties effects: Voxengo OldSkoolVerb *12, Brainworx bx_solo *3, Full Bucket Brigade delay *1,

Cableguys PanCake2 *1, Roth Air *2, Ozone Imager *1, Georges Yohng's W1 Limiter *1

https://soundcloud.com/jkflashico/jkfla ... -the-stars

kokotte · Post by **kokotte** » Tue Oct 24, 2017 1:05 pm

i would like to know if it possible to use the ableton vocoder without any carrier and any noise, just using the filter band pass filtering( i could replicate the effect with some eq or bp in paralell but it's quicker with the vocoder) ?
i could post an audio file if need.

Hanz Meyzer · Post by **Hanz Meyzer** » Tue Oct 24, 2017 1:26 pm

Here is my entry:

https://soundcloud.com/hanzmeyzer/floating-fifths

80s FTW! Or is it 90s, I don't know

Software used: Bitwig 2.2.1 DAW, 19x U-He Zebralette VSTi, 1x GClip VST, 16x Dynamics, 4x Compressor, 25x EQ-5, 5x Transient Control, 11x Reverb, 1x Amp (slightly)

doctorbob · Post by **doctorbob** » Tue Oct 24, 2017 2:53 pm

Ok - here's what I have come up with since junking my first attempt into the dustbin! This is an extemely dense track and hope it has enough elements wthin it to satisfy the OSC audience.

For simplicity it is based only on 2 chords (Status Quo eat your hearts out!) - Am and Dm.

Only DAW and free 3rd party FX used for track processing. The majority of presets made either from INIT or drastically modified factory/net presets.

DAW: Reaper

Track details:
44 * Zebralette
44 * ReaEQ
1 * JS Bass Manager/Booster
9 * LFX-1310 (autopanner)
4 * Twin Delay
4 * Dub-Delay TAL
4 * TAL Reverb 4
11 * TAL Reverb II

Master
TDR VOS SlickEQ
Voxengo MSED
Ferric TDS

DR: 9

Please enjoy either loud or quiet on speakers/phones.

Just had to put it out there in case I need to do drastic revisions.

https://soundcloud.com/doctorbob/red-sol-i

mmGhost · Post by **mmGhost** » Tue Oct 24, 2017 3:50 pm

some pretty cool stuff so far, keep 'em coming

TrojakEW · Post by **TrojakEW** » Tue Oct 24, 2017 4:42 pm

doctorbob - nice track but it seems kind overcompressed to me. Please review it since it is nice theme.

One Synth Challenge #104 - Zebralette by u-he (Photonic Wins!)