Synthesizer V - Singing voice synth for Win/Linux/Mac (Free & Payware)

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Spitfire31 wrote: Tue Feb 08, 2022 1:03 pm I bought SV Studio Pro and Eleanor at Anicute: www.anicute.com/

I think it's based in Taiwan. Worked just fine!
Thanks, although I am trying to buy Ryo which is not yet available at Anicute.

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ZincT wrote: Tue Feb 08, 2022 12:55 pm I'm trying to place an order on the Dreamtonics webiste but I keep getting a Captcha error so it won't complete the order.
I have solved the Captcha and tried different browsers but still no joy. I cannot see any contact details on the website either :?
Has anyone ordered successfully and if so what did you do? :bang:
Thanks
If you haven't done it, maybe creating an account first and signing in to purchase? I'm sorry the website is giving you this grief.

AHS sells Ryo, but their prices are higher. If you put a product in the cart, it'll region-detect your language and currency. And you can only have one thing in the cart at a time :?
https://www.ah-soft.com/product/download.html#synth-v

Or there is the AHS SVS Pro Starter Pack on Amazon JP, which includes the editor + a coupon for one free voice on the AHS store including Ryo. Depending on where you live, even with shipping it can be cheaper than bundles sold elsewhere. Today the base price is 15,900 JPY which is $134 USD.
https://www.amazon.co.jp/dp/B08B3CNY2D/
Redemption page: https://www.ah-soft.com/api/product/synth-v/voice_p/

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Pelicanomicon wrote: Tue Feb 08, 2022 4:54 pm
ZincT wrote: Tue Feb 08, 2022 12:55 pm I'm trying to place an order on the Dreamtonics webiste but I keep getting a Captcha error so it won't complete the order.
I have solved the Captcha and tried different browsers but still no joy. I cannot see any contact details on the website either :?
Has anyone ordered successfully and if so what did you do? :bang:
Thanks
If you haven't done it, maybe creating an account first and signing in to purchase? I'm sorry the website is giving you this grief.

AHS sells Ryo, but their prices are higher. If you put a product in the cart, it'll region-detect your language and currency. And you can only have one thing in the cart at a time :?
https://www.ah-soft.com/product/download.html#synth-v

Or there is the AHS SVS Pro Starter Pack on Amazon JP, which includes the editor + a coupon for one free voice on the AHS store including Ryo. Depending on where you live, even with shipping it can be cheaper than bundles sold elsewhere. Today the base price is 15,900 JPY which is $134 USD.
https://www.amazon.co.jp/dp/B08B3CNY2D/
Redemption page: https://www.ah-soft.com/api/product/synth-v/voice_p/
Thanks @Pelicanomicon I am in the UK.

UPDATE: Turned out to be my credit card company blocking my purchase as I had never bought from a Japanese company before. Sorted now, activation codes received and products downloaded and installed :tu: A quick test and Ryo sounds great in English!

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Glad that was sorted out for you @ZincT :tu: I picked up both guys and spent the weekend messing around with Ryo and...well, I finally uninstalled all my Vocaloids.

Except for Crypton V1 KAITO, which I'm sentimental about. Still hoping for a SVS voice that sounds like him:

It is just so much easier to get natural English pronunciation and prosody from Synthesizer V. I literally waited over a decade for this.

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Wow that's quite a milestone for you @Pelicanomicon!

I have heard some better demos of Kevin and might go back for him myself. For now though I'm all set with Solaria and Ryo.

That KAITO vocal is pretty impressive, and I was surprised at how old the video was.

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Pelicanomicon wrote: Wed Feb 09, 2022 7:12 am I finally uninstalled all my Vocaloids.
Are they resellable? Seems like they might still be useful.

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ZincT wrote: Wed Feb 09, 2022 8:41 am That KAITO vocal is pretty impressive, and I was surprised at how old the video was.
VOCALOID1 had some useful features that made this kind of tuning possible--features that Yamaha
subsequently dropped, like 4 separate "Resonance" parameters each with 3 sublanes for Frequency, Bandwith, and Amplitude. For VOCALOID5, they removed more synthesis options that I relied on for V3 KAITO's non-native English voicebank.
Musical Gym wrote: Wed Feb 09, 2022 9:52 amAre they resellable? Seems like they might still be useful.
Not digital purchases, I believe. But I'll hold on to them in case Yamaha reinstates VOCALOID2 voice support in VOCALOID6. Or if I ever need a really big chorus :)

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thanks

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@Pelicanomicon

Just thought I would drop an update here after buying Synth V Pro and Solaria/Ryo. Initially, I thought it might be interesting to replace Eleanor Forte AI Lite with Solaria in one of my early projects to see if I could tell much difference. Let's just say that I'm still trying to pick my jaw off the floor :o Wow! I would urge anyone on the fence after trying the demo/lite versions to dive in.

Something I have discovered is the Auto Pitch Tuning feature which I had initially ignored thinking it was like Autotune/Melodyne. What it seems to do is to make the rise to the start of notes or the drop at the end of notes sound more realistic like a human would sing. Some of the results sound so realistic and, even where the notes are actually slightly out of tune, that in itself makes it sound more realistic.
Last edited by ZincT on Mon Feb 14, 2022 1:37 pm, edited 2 times in total.

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I've also bought Synth V and the Solaria voice. With a little care you can really make the voice sound like a singer, and that Auto Pitch Tuning enhances the realism even further. It does take some experimenting to find suitable values for it, but well worth it.

To me Synth V voices are way ahead of f.inst. emvoice and vocaloid.

Here's my first song using Solaria.


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Bojo Software wrote: Sun Feb 13, 2022 7:10 pm I've also bought Synth V and the Solaria voice. With a little care you can really make the voice sound like a singer, and that Auto Pitch Tuning enhances the realism even further. It does take some experimenting to find suitable values for it, but well worth it.

To me Synth V voices are way ahead of f.inst. emvoice and vocaloid.

Here's my first song using Solaria.

En meget god sang, synes jeg!

Solaria is truly believable as a 'real' singer. Maybe that la-la-la part feels a bit unneccessary, though? And perhaps the piano gets a bit strident when you dig in during the vocals, competing in the same frequency range?

Anyway, those are details. Nice tune and excellent work with the new vocalist! And I do appreciate the pauses in the lyrics.

It is a quantum jump, when you don't have to subtitle the lyrics in the video any more, isn't it? ;-)
If it were easy, anybody could do it!

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Spitfire31 wrote: Sun Feb 13, 2022 8:16 pm It is a quantum jump, when you don't have to subtitle the lyrics in the video any more, isn't it? ;-)
Yes, I could never understand what vocaloids etc. was singing.

And thanks for your feedback. You made some good points.

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@Bojo Software I enjoyed listening to your song, thanks for sharing. Great use of Solaria and the vocal harmonies were a nice touch. Also enjoyed the outro guitar /organ interplay.

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Hello there @ZincT! Had a listen to your SoundClick and I'm so happy that you're getting such great use from SVS Pro and Solaria right out of the gate :D Auto-Pitch Tuning absolutely is a fantastic tool for humanizing vocals, and in general SVS makes tweaking pitch easy. I have read the conversations elsewhere on the cons of Dreamtonics only allowing Lite voices for evaluation, but given the rampant piracy in vocal synth fandom it is the reasonable solution.

I don't mean to spam the Synthesizer V thread with competitor news but it seems to me that the milestone Cross-Lingual release really must be pushing other companies to change their strategies:

:o Yamaha is holding an open audition for a new (presumably Japanese only) VOCALOID voicebank over social media until 28 Feb 2022 23:59. Runner-up prizes are copies of VOCALOID5. The last Japanese voice for V5 came out in 2019!
Yamaha page: https://www.vocaloid.com/news/vocaloid_audition2022/
Music app "nana" page: https://nana-music.com/events/vocaloid-audition-2022/

Points from the nana campaign page (translations from DeepL):
  • Sing to the accompaniment (sound without singing voice) of your favorite song posted on nana and post it as a collaboration, and write the prescribed tag 「 #ボカロオーディション 」 ["#vocaloaudition"] in the caption.
  • Up to 20,000 yen of actual expenses will be paid for participation in the recording (including transportation and accommodation). The recording is scheduled to take place in the 23 wards of Tokyo.
  • The recording for the voice bank is scheduled for the summer of 2022. The release date of the recorded voice bank is yet to be determined.
  • After the Grand Prix is confirmed, the conditions for the voice bank will be presented and a contract will be made with Yamaha Corporation regarding the recording. If the winner declines, only the rights to the voice bank will be transferred to the runner-up. (This is not a contract that incurs any costs.)
Late last month Yamaha also started uploading new VOCALOID tutorials in Japanese after a gap of almost four years. One of the promotional tweets rhetorically asks "But isn't it hard to make Vocaloid music?"
https://twitter.com/vocaloid_yamaha/sta ... 6259831810

And then there's Emvoice's repeated price drops in the space of a few months...

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Pelicanomicon wrote: Tue Feb 15, 2022 7:26 am Hello there @ZincT! Had a listen to your SoundClick and I'm so happy that you're getting such great use from SVS Pro and Solaria right out of the gate :D Auto-Pitch Tuning absolutely is a fantastic tool for humanizing vocals, and in general SVS makes tweaking pitch easy. I have read the conversations elsewhere on the cons of Dreamtonics only allowing Lite voices for evaluation, but given the rampant piracy in vocal synth fandom it is the reasonable solution.
Cheers @Pelicanomicon

I should also have added a big THANK YOU to you for this KVR thread, without which I wouldn't have even known about Synthesizer V. I tend to scan down the first page of the "Instruments" sub-forum every so often, looking for anything that might be of interest, and I'm so glad that I spotted this thread!

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