Synapse Audio OBSESSION is now available!
- KVRAF
- 12522 posts since 21 Mar, 2008 from Hannover, Germany
Of course you can have bigger differnces between Dual parts A and B. Depends on the patch.SLiC wrote: Sun Jun 21, 2020 4:54 pmYup- now I have bought it and being playing with the full version (which has a bunch of split pre-sets) I can see that the A - B is more of a 'slide to a variation of A' device rather than a morph between two patches...to many elements of A and B have to be the same to really get something substantially different...still useful, but not as useful as being able to morph/layer/split two completely independent patches.Ingonator wrote: Sun Jun 21, 2020 12:08 pmCopy/Paste does not just work for Dual/Split parts but also for the voice trimmers of a certain voice.Ingonator wrote: Sun Jun 21, 2020 9:45 am First it is important to know that only the Osc/Filter/envelope settings can be copied from another patch while other parameters like e.g. modulation, mod matrix and FXs are global.
A way to create a Dual patch from 2 single patches is this:
- Load a single patch in the 1st instance of OBsession
- if needed change voices to 16 (right-click menu or the Dual/Split modes drop-down menu)
- At the drop-down menu in the upper left select "Dual"
- open a 2nd instance of OBsession
- load another single patch in the 2nd instance
- in the 2nd instance click on "copy part" in the right-click menu
- go back to the 1st instance and open part B there (by clicking at "B")
- click on "paste part" from the right-click menu which adds the OSc/Filter/enveleop settings of teh second patch to Part B of the first instance
- you can flip the parts with "swap parst" from the right click menu
- in this example the modulation + mod matrix + FX settings from the first instance/patch will be used. The volume knob is global too but you got the balance fader to adjust the volume of the parts.
This sounds complicated at a first look but gets very easy when you get used to it.
When you open one of the voice edit pages then in the right-click menu you get 2 options called "Copy Trimmers" and "Paste Trimmers". You can use this to copy/paste voice trimmers inside a single part of a patch (from one voice to another one), between 2 parts of a Dual/split patch and also between 2 instances of OBsession and/or between 2 patches.
In my Pads presets called "Blue Planet IW" and "Marimba Heaven IW" the difference between the parts seems to be bigger.
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- KVRAF
- 12083 posts since 2 Dec, 2004 from North Wales
Yes, they sound pretty good (took me a while to find them as there is no separate folder or tag for 'dual' as there is for split)Ingonator wrote: Sun Jun 21, 2020 6:09 pmOf course you can have bigger differnces between Dual parts A and B. Depends on the patch.SLiC wrote: Sun Jun 21, 2020 4:54 pmYup- now I have bought it and being playing with the full version (which has a bunch of split pre-sets) I can see that the A - B is more of a 'slide to a variation of A' device rather than a morph between two patches...to many elements of A and B have to be the same to really get something substantially different...still useful, but not as useful as being able to morph/layer/split two completely independent patches.Ingonator wrote: Sun Jun 21, 2020 12:08 pmCopy/Paste does not just work for Dual/Split parts but also for the voice trimmers of a certain voice.Ingonator wrote: Sun Jun 21, 2020 9:45 am First it is important to know that only the Osc/Filter/envelope settings can be copied from another patch while other parameters like e.g. modulation, mod matrix and FXs are global.
A way to create a Dual patch from 2 single patches is this:
- Load a single patch in the 1st instance of OBsession
- if needed change voices to 16 (right-click menu or the Dual/Split modes drop-down menu)
- At the drop-down menu in the upper left select "Dual"
- open a 2nd instance of OBsession
- load another single patch in the 2nd instance
- in the 2nd instance click on "copy part" in the right-click menu
- go back to the 1st instance and open part B there (by clicking at "B")
- click on "paste part" from the right-click menu which adds the OSc/Filter/enveleop settings of teh second patch to Part B of the first instance
- you can flip the parts with "swap parst" from the right click menu
- in this example the modulation + mod matrix + FX settings from the first instance/patch will be used. The volume knob is global too but you got the balance fader to adjust the volume of the parts.
This sounds complicated at a first look but gets very easy when you get used to it.
When you open one of the voice edit pages then in the right-click menu you get 2 options called "Copy Trimmers" and "Paste Trimmers". You can use this to copy/paste voice trimmers inside a single part of a patch (from one voice to another one), between 2 parts of a Dual/split patch and also between 2 instances of OBsession and/or between 2 patches.
In my Pads presets called "Blue Planet IW" and "Marimba Heaven IW" the difference between the parts seems to be bigger.
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- KVRAF
- 12522 posts since 21 Mar, 2008 from Hannover, Germany
Well, i mentioned they are "Pads presets"...SLiC wrote: Sun Jun 21, 2020 6:31 pm Yes, they sound pretty good (took me a while to find them as there is no separate folder or tag for 'dual' as there is for split)
Ingo Weidner
Win 10 Home 64-bit / mobile i7-7700HQ 2.8 GHz / 16GB RAM //
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- KVRist
- 151 posts since 24 Nov, 2011
Just bought Obsession. Excellent synth, loving the vibe! This synth really has character! Great job, Synapse Audio & the preset guys!
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- KVRian
- 798 posts since 17 Nov, 2015 from Yuma
if it sounds as good as their "legend" plugin its more or less a no brainer for oberheim hunters. paranoid hunters just wait for a starsky carr test on youtube ;D
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- KVRist
- 270 posts since 5 Sep, 2011
Obsession Feature Request, voice randomization amount Knob, right now you can only choose between full randomization or initialize voice adjustments, a macro knob to control this would be cool and make fine tuning the the amount of randomness less tedious than adjusting each voice one by one.
- KVRAF
- 1550 posts since 25 Sep, 2011
Organic knob? Controls the amount of modulation of all sound parameters in all voices randomly. It's great when you modulate this parameter with, f.e., the mod wheel, for real time control of analog randomness.
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- KVRist
- 111 posts since 13 Sep, 2013 from Berlin, Germany
The reverb is excellent. So excellent, that quite a few patches don't demonstrate the quality of the Oberheim emulation, but the implementation of that reverb. Not complaining. ObsessionFX would be great, though. 
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- KVRist
- 270 posts since 5 Sep, 2011
The problem with that knob is it creates a sort of lfo to pitch modulation, so it's not exactly a global randomization knob as it introduces that to the tone.Yorrrrrr wrote: Sun Jun 21, 2020 7:59 pm Organic knob? Controls the amount of modulation of all sound parameters in all voices randomly. It's great when you modulate this parameter with, f.e., the mod wheel, for real time control of analog randomness.
The organic knob as I understand it seems to modulate ( positively or negatively) the value you've set to each voice by assigning it a Lfo, that why you get the sort of drift vibrato pitch modulation.
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- KVRian
- 743 posts since 29 Nov, 2015
First 10 minutes was pretty confusing as the init patch is a crossfade between patch A and B, leading to some strange behaviour when turning the filter knob etc... (and still hearing a tone etc) Took me a while to figure out. So the question now, does it have the ability to pan spread the voices? I've looked around but havent found it so far.
Edit: Alright so apparently the spread knob actually does this, but nothing happens when I turn it so far. I figured it might be a voice detune "spread" but didnt hear anything.
Edit: Alright so apparently the spread knob actually does this, but nothing happens when I turn it so far. I figured it might be a voice detune "spread" but didnt hear anything.
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- KVRAF
- 1550 posts since 25 Sep, 2011
Spread knob pans spreads voices, specially when the voice Pan trimmers are set to L and R alternately, such as when you you use any of the Init patches (browser), or you use the "Initialize Voice Adjustments" right-click command.mrj1nx wrote: Sun Jun 21, 2020 8:34 pm So the question now, does it have the ability to pan spread the voices? I've looked around but havent found it so far.
If the Pan trimmers are set to center, nothing will happen with the Spread knob.
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- KVRian
- 743 posts since 29 Nov, 2015
Gotcha thanks. A little strange to not just have settings set in the init patch but nice to see it's thereYorrrrrr wrote: Sun Jun 21, 2020 8:38 pmSpread knob pans spreads voices, specially when the voice trimmers are set to L and R alternately, such as when you you use any of the Init patches, or you use the "Initialize Voice Adjustments" right-click command.mrj1nx wrote: Sun Jun 21, 2020 8:34 pm So the question now, does it have the ability to pan spread the voices? I've looked around but havent found it so far.
