Thanks. That's really cool. Sometimes I feel like the benefits of polyphonic aftertouch are a bit overblown but this gives it a ton of potential. Time to break out the VFX!solar28 wrote: Sat Jan 21, 2023 7:59 pm So oscillator two includes a handful of effects that act on oscillator 1. With no modulation or routing, it acts like your typical send/master effect. But once you assign modulation (AT or envelope or whatever) these effects are per voice. You can literally hold down a few keys and hear the effects reacting differently to each key.
Arturia Minifreak VST
- KVRAF
- 20737 posts since 22 Nov, 2000 from Southern California
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- KVRAF
- 3220 posts since 23 Dec, 2002
To get back on topic, after demoing it numerous times (in 20 minute intervals) I bought the Minifreak in VST form today. Quite enjoy it. It isn't an everything box but it makes me happy to tweak it and rewards me for the effort. I enjoy the microfreak which I own and have wanted more polyphony from time to time. The CV output for that freaky keyboard integrates nicely with my modular rig. $49.00 for the VST with all of its limitations is still worth it to me. Not bad, Not bad at all.
vurt wrote: Sat Jan 21, 2023 4:26 pm if a tree falls in the forest, and there is no one around to hear it, does it go "grrr!"?
bones is bones, love or hate him, you ain't gonna change him. let it go.
you only stress yourself by trying to hold back the wind.
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- KVRAF
- 3220 posts since 23 Dec, 2002
I am just getting into the sequencer now. That is a very interesting. I hope Arturia opens up a preset sharing facility on their website. Some people would be able to exploit that better than I could for sure and it would be great to learn from others. Thanks for the post.
solar28 wrote: Sat Jan 21, 2023 8:08 pm The synth also supports in it's sequencer the ability to have an entirely different synth for each step. The type(synthesizer type) parameter switches instantly - and is modulatable per step in the sequencer/arpeggiator. So each step can be a different synth engine. Each step in the sequencer can modulate up to 3 parameters, including the synth engine.
This video shows about (12:40 mins in) changing the synth engine per step:
- GRRRRRRR!
- 17741 posts since 14 Jun, 2001 from Somewhere you're not!
Or, maybe, just maybe, he's trying to understand why anyone would make a decision like that? It may seem reasonable, perhaps even logical, to you but it makes absolutely no sense at all to me.solar28 wrote: Sat Jan 21, 2023 7:03 pmOnce again Bones is posting his opinion and trying to tell other people what they should like or not like.
I don't belittle anyone, people belittle themselves with their stupidity. I just point out to them how stupid they look. It's a service I am happy to provide.I've watched Bones over the years belittle hundreds of people on this forum.
[quopte]Bones does not argue in good faith. He always enters the picture looking to be a big shot and prove himself right.[/quote]
Only when I know I'm right. Otherwise, I'll guarantee that I ask more questions here than any other user. In fact, the post that has you so riled up was a question, not a statement.
You mean like pointing out that when you have no valid counter-argument, you instead resort to personal attacks? Because that's the thing - if I am actually wrong, you should be able to mount a cogent counter-argument to make me look like an idiot. So when you resort to a personal attack, it just confirms to me, and probably anyone else who reads the thread, that what I said was close to the mark.If you have ever watched his posts over the years, you know he is pathetic..
I was unaware of this and it certainly doesn't show in any of the patches I demoed. But it is, indeed, a perfect reason to put up with its sub-par sound if you have a use for that feature. See how easy it is to learn something when you actually engage, rather than resort to personal attack?solar28 wrote: Sat Jan 21, 2023 7:07 pmHe's also factually wrong. very few instruments, hardware or vst have POLYPHONIC effects, like Minifreak. It's extremely rare but Bones wants to flop his fat opinion and try to tell people that plenty of plugins do what Minifreak is doing.
Where was I wrong? I didn't state anything that wasn't correct, I simply hadn't noticed a feature of this particular instrument, although now that you mention it, someone had said something about it previously, which I'd forgotten. That's more about ignorance than being wrong. As I was asking a question, not stating a fact, ignorance could easily have been inferred, so I'm not exactly sure why you got yourselves so worked up about a simple question. Is it a language problem?He of course will not and cannot get over himself and his dumb opinions and ever admit any fault whatsoever. Just watch -- if he chooses to reply, he will act like he's never done anything wrong.
Bottom line - the pair of you need to learn the difference between a statement and a question. You should also try and grow up a little.
Right, Dog forbid anyone should do anything less than accept your every word as gospel. And that I would take the time to seek clarity, rather than simply dismiss you as a moron is completely unacceptable. I see that now.stash98 wrote: Sat Jan 21, 2023 7:18 pmI remember that guy tried to get me to post my resume because I had an opinion on how I used hardware in my workflow.
The good news is that rezoneight's post shows us that it's now OK to call people assholes and wankers, which is great because you, my friend, are clearly both. (Or maybe the mods are on holidays and we're both about to get banned?)
Except it isn't fairly priced. At full price it is the same price as Pigments, which you just implied is a better synth. So you have contradicted yourself. And Pigments is sold at MF's current price half-a-dozen times a year, so the current discount doesn't validate your point, either. In a world where TRK-01 Bass is free, MiniFreak VSTi should be less than $50.I thin Arturias crowning acheivement is Pigments, but this one is worth a look. I think a decent amount of tracks will have the Minifreak on them since it was an affordable synth that sold a lot of units. The software can get that same sound and is fairly priced.
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NOVAkILL : Legion GO, AMD Z1x, 16GB RAM, Win11 | Audient EVO 8 | Lumi Keys | Studio Pro 8
Korg Odyssey, bx-oberhausen, Proxima, PolyMax, GR8, JP6K, Union, Atomika,
Invader 2, Flow Motion, Olga, TRK 01, Thorn, Spire, VG Iron
Korg Odyssey, bx-oberhausen, Proxima, PolyMax, GR8, JP6K, Union, Atomika,
Invader 2, Flow Motion, Olga, TRK 01, Thorn, Spire, VG Iron
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- 17741 posts since 14 Jun, 2001 from Somewhere you're not!
I haven't tried but it might be handy for things like per-voice distortion, especially with envelope modulation. In that situation it would work like a saturation or drive in the signal path, before the VCA. That said, the distortion effect is pretty weak, so it might not make much difference. Per voice chorus, though, could get messy.
That's just copying what Elektron have been doing for years. There are a few other things out there that can do the same but Elektron were first by a long way.solar28 wrote: Sat Jan 21, 2023 8:08 pmThe synth also supports in it's sequencer the ability to have an entirely different synth for each step.
NOVAkILL : Legion GO, AMD Z1x, 16GB RAM, Win11 | Audient EVO 8 | Lumi Keys | Studio Pro 8
Korg Odyssey, bx-oberhausen, Proxima, PolyMax, GR8, JP6K, Union, Atomika,
Invader 2, Flow Motion, Olga, TRK 01, Thorn, Spire, VG Iron
Korg Odyssey, bx-oberhausen, Proxima, PolyMax, GR8, JP6K, Union, Atomika,
Invader 2, Flow Motion, Olga, TRK 01, Thorn, Spire, VG Iron
- KVRAF
- 20737 posts since 22 Nov, 2000 from Southern California
I just saw that the MiniFreak keyboard doesn’t send polyphonic aftertouch. Missed opportunity!
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- KVRAF
- 3220 posts since 23 Dec, 2002
Agreed, another reason to promote the Hydrasynth to main controller status (as well a main synth imho). Minifreak does handle and can use external poly AT fortunately.
Uncle E wrote: Sat Jan 21, 2023 11:33 pm I just saw that the MiniFreak keyboard doesn’t send polyphonic aftertouch. Missed opportunity!
- GRRRRRRR!
- 17741 posts since 14 Jun, 2001 from Somewhere you're not!
No, but you'll be pilloried for saying it, just the same.
NOVAkILL : Legion GO, AMD Z1x, 16GB RAM, Win11 | Audient EVO 8 | Lumi Keys | Studio Pro 8
Korg Odyssey, bx-oberhausen, Proxima, PolyMax, GR8, JP6K, Union, Atomika,
Invader 2, Flow Motion, Olga, TRK 01, Thorn, Spire, VG Iron
Korg Odyssey, bx-oberhausen, Proxima, PolyMax, GR8, JP6K, Union, Atomika,
Invader 2, Flow Motion, Olga, TRK 01, Thorn, Spire, VG Iron
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- KVRAF
- 5444 posts since 15 Feb, 2020
No he won’t. He just stated his opinion in a non-unhinged way, in a thread of opinions on a plugin.
As far as I’m aware, he also doesn’t have form for aggressively slating others. Or for that matter using repulsive bolded sexual innuendo in threads about synths.
why would anyone snap back at him ?
Agree with this.
As far as I’m aware, he also doesn’t have form for aggressively slating others. Or for that matter using repulsive bolded sexual innuendo in threads about synths.
why would anyone snap back at him ?
JerGoertz wrote: Sun Jan 22, 2023 1:42 am Am I the only one who thinks this sounds digital in all the wrong ways?
Agree with this.
I lost my heart in Cap de Creus
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- KVRist
- 98 posts since 8 Apr, 2005
Only when I know I'm right. Otherwise, I'll guarantee that I ask more questions here than any other user. In fact, the post that has you so riled up was a question, not a statement.BONES wrote: Sat Jan 21, 2023 10:58 pmOr, maybe, just maybe, he's trying to understand why anyone would make a decision like that? It may seem reasonable, perhaps even logical, to you but it makes absolutely no sense at all to me.solar28 wrote: Sat Jan 21, 2023 7:03 pmOnce again Bones is posting his opinion and trying to tell other people what they should like or not like.I don't belittle anyone, people belittle themselves with their stupidity. I just point out to them how stupid they look. It's a service I am happy to provide.I've watched Bones over the years belittle hundreds of people on this forum.
[quopte]Bones does not argue in good faith. He always enters the picture looking to be a big shot and prove himself right.
You mean like pointing out that when you have no valid counter-argument, you instead resort to personal attacks? Because that's the thing - if I am actually wrong, you should be able to mount a cogent counter-argument to make me look like an idiot. So when you resort to a personal attack, it just confirms to me, and probably anyone else who reads the thread, that what I said was close to the mark.If you have ever watched his posts over the years, you know he is pathetic..
I was unaware of this and it certainly doesn't show in any of the patches I demoed and it is, indeed, a perfect reason to put up with its sub-par sound if you have a use for that feature. See how easy it is to learn something when you actually engage, rather than resort to personal attack?solar28 wrote: Sat Jan 21, 2023 7:07 pmHe's also factually wrong. very few instruments, hardware or vst have POLYPHONIC effects, like Minifreak. It's extremely rare but Bones wants to flop his fat opinion and try to tell people that plenty of plugins do what Minifreak is doing.
Where was I wrong? I didn't state anything that wasn't correct, I simply hadn't noticed a feature of this particular instrument, although now that you mention it, someone had said something about it previously, which I'd forgotten. That's more about ignorance than being wrong. As I was asking a question, not stating a fact, ignorance could easily have been inferred, so I'm not exactly sure why you got yourselves so worked up about a simple question. Is it a language problem?He of course will not and cannot get over himself and his dumb opinions and ever admit any fault whatsoever. Just watch -- if he chooses to reply, he will act like he's never done anything wrong.
Bottom line - the pair of you need to learn the difference between a statement and a question. You should also try and grow up a little.
Right, Dog forbid anyone should do anything less than accept your every word as gospel. And that I would take the time to seek clarity, rather than simply dismiss you as a moron is completely unacceptable. I see that now.stash98 wrote: Sat Jan 21, 2023 7:18 pmI remember that guy tried to get me to post my resume because I had an opinion on how I used hardware in my workflow.
The good news is that rezoneight's post shows us that it's now OK to call people assholes and wankers, which is great because you, my friend, are clearly both. (Or maybe the mods are on holidays and we're both about to get banned?)
Except it isn't fairly priced. At full price it is the same price as Pigments, which you just implied is a better synth. So you have contradicted yourself. And Pigments is sold at MF's current price half-a-dozen times a year, so the current discount doesn't validate your point, either. In a world where TRK-01 Bass is free, MiniFreak VSTi should be less than $50.I thin Arturias crowning acheivement is Pigments, but this one is worth a look. I think a decent amount of tracks will have the Minifreak on them since it was an affordable synth that sold a lot of units. The software can get that same sound and is fairly priced.
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Lol. Thank you for proving my point in literally every sentence. I knew exactly that you would literally come on here and say something so false as "I've never belittled anyone". You are so brilliant in your lying. So thank you for behaving exactly as I expected.
Are you going to factually deny that mods haven't warned you about your behavior? I love how you talk about "seeking clarity". Now, the bully is just an innocent little kid just trying to find facts and understanding.
Electron boxes allow per step effects? Per step sample switching? Hey dude that's smarter than everyone: I own some of those boxes. Minifreak allows per step synthesizer switching. Your so insolent that you name some hardware that does something, "sorta similar". That's kind of a far cry from, "this doesn't do anything that many other plugins already do". I prove you completely wrong from a factual basis and all you can do is claim you are completely right in everything you've ever said. It's kinda beautiful.
I'm so excited to watch your future threads where you belittle other people and act like an innocent kitten. You've gotten better at NOT beginning your sentences with "you have to be a complete idiot if . . . " or "you show no ability to logically reason if . . .". Hundreds of times Boners to hundreds of users. And yeah this is personal - because after years of mistreating people on this forum with personal attacks, now you are like, "oh poor me you must attack me personally since you can't logically defeat my arguments". lol. I know you will never change. You are incapable. That's kind of your secret stupidity isn't it? Oh, and hey Bones, "YOU ARE RIGHT, YOU WIN".
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- KVRist
- 98 posts since 8 Apr, 2005
Bones sits there and acts like, for the first time ever, it's ok to call people wankers and assholes. He has literally told hundreds of people that they have no ability to be logical, that they are complete idiots, that they are stupid. Now watch him be an innocent little victim.
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- KVRAF
- 5444 posts since 15 Feb, 2020
Arturia are also on the naughty step for me as under Apple’s latest OS (yes, Apple are on an even bigger naughty step, but that’s for another thread ) I keep getting notifications about Arturia background processes.
Anyone else getting this?
Anyone else getting this?
I lost my heart in Cap de Creus
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- KVRist
- 98 posts since 8 Apr, 2005
Ahh little bones is now a victim for simply having an opinion. As if he hasn't told hundreds of people over the years that they are stupid, ignorant, and incapable of reasoning. now, he's this victim that gets pilloried for having an opinion. it doesn't get more contradictory and pathetic.
