Testing of Bitwig Studio 5.2 or .3 or .4 ...

[EnGee]

Yeah, I think I'm falling back on Cubase 13 more because of these issues. But I'm now missing certain things "flow-wise" I had got used to in Bitwig. Given the way things are being pushed by the companies I find it odd that the latest Cubase has no problem with my systems and Bitwig. And that in all my correspondence with Bitwig, they won't even acknowledge Steinberg by name. Hmm.

Like I added in my previous post, Bitwig5 IS working closer to what it did before. Ths upgrade has me swamped in lists I didn't have to deal with before though. I'm sure others find what they added in that respect better, but it makes things slower and tedious for me.

If you can run Cubase 13 on your system, then why bother with Bitwig! I mean if you prefer Bitwig that much, then you either upgrade your system to be compatible with the new version, or just use the older version (v4). I don't think you would miss that much, only if you care a lot about 'generative' and random things.

On my PC, Bitwig runs better (also S1) than AB Live and Cubase, but I trust the audio and midi of AB Live and Cubase much more than S1 (and Bitwig). I have AB Live 12, Cubase 13, S1 v6 and Reaper 7 installed on my PC while I have Logic and AB Live on mini Mac M1. All of them have no problem with Tascam interface which I prefer using rather than the Steinberg IXO 22. Anyway, my first candidate is AB Live as my main DAW then Cubase/Logic. I haven't decided yet. I need to finish some music pieces on every one, after that I will stick to one of them probably.

Personally I won't bother with support in my case. I won't waste my time testing and writing back and forth. I take what's ready for me. I might contact support in things related to activation/license transfer or how to access a project I can't open. However, I always let them know about bugs I encounter, but I don't wait their answer. I just test the new releases. If they haven't fixed it, I just ignore everything. So, sorry, I won't bother contacting them because I believe it is useless.

[Trancit]

... Now, after I read that Linux kernel maintaining is being politicized, I lost trust in Linux (and open source in general). ...

What do you mean by that??

I am not into Linux as I am too silly to make it wok for me but I always kept an eye on it just in case it´s getting too crazy in Windows...

Are there any news that for Linux will happen the same?

[swindus]

https://news.itsfoss.com/russian-linux- ... opolitics/

[Freaqpeak]

https://news.itsfoss.com/russian-linux- ... opolitics/

You dont seem to understand what
"Open source" means or what it can be
You think its one thing?

Plenty of IT folk have fled from Russia btw. Quite alot actually. These ppl have no issues working in other countries as long as they dont support Putins massacres and wars. I work with several ppl myself that fled from Putin.
Why should I be friends with you if you support warcrimes and a dictator that has purposly killed friends of mine?

You clearly dont have insights in what is happening every single day and what Putin does to abuse weak russians to do horrible things. Every single day russians attack the infrastructure of other countries like Finland.

[EnGee]

... Now, after I read that Linux kernel maintaining is being politicized, I lost trust in Linux (and open source in general). ...

What do you mean by that??

swindus has posted a good link. Anyway, I won't discuss any politics behind the matter. I just stated why I left the Bitwig/Linux combo (which is not Bitwig's fault).

[swindus]

Yes, no politics, just information.

[Trancit]

... Now, after I read that Linux kernel maintaining is being politicized, I lost trust in Linux (and open source in general). ...

What do you mean by that??

swindus has posted a good link. Anyway, I won't discuss any politics behind the matter. I just stated why I left the Bitwig/Linux combo (which is not Bitwig's fault).

Yes, I see...

[jens]

Now, after I read that Linux kernel maintaining is being politicized, I lost trust in Linux (and open source in general).

[jens]

I just stated why I left the Bitwig/Linux combo (which is not Bitwig's fault).

That's your personal choice and nobody else's business and I think you'll be hard-pressed to find anyone giving a tiny rat's arse about what you do or do not use - hence it was 100% a case of FAR too much information to begin with - and hence it was you after all dragging politics into this thread. But now that you brought it up let's see what Linus has to say about it, shall we?:

Ok, lots of Russian trolls out and about. It's entirely clear why the change was done, it's not getting reverted, and using multiple random anonymous accounts to try to "grass root" it by Russian troll factories isn't going to change anything. And FYI for the actual innocent bystanders who aren't troll farm accounts - the "various compliance requirements" are not just a US thing.

If you haven't heard of Russian sanctions yet, you should try to read the news some day. And by "news," I don't mean Russian state-sponsored spam. As to sending me a revert patch - please use whatever mush you call brains. I'm Finnish. Did you think I'd be *supporting* Russian aggression? Apparently it's not just lack of real news, it's lack of history knowledge too

[BBFG#]

I sometimes wonder if companies pay people to derail these types of threads to keep from addressing their accumulating issues.

[Dionysos]

I sometimes wonder if companies pay people to derail these types of threads to keep from addressing their accumulating issues.

I suppose a company paid you to come up with this clever theory.

[BBFG#]

So anything but the topic of the multiple issues. The problem of it not quitting is still there and the problem of it not releasing the audio engine/interface has returned. Although it doesn't effect stand-alones, just itself and now Cubase. Reboot is again required for them. It's just Bitwig.

[Igro]

https://news.itsfoss.com/russian-linux- ... opolitics/

You dont seem to understand what
"Open source" means or what it can be
You think its one thing?

Plenty of IT folk have fled from Russia btw. Quite alot actually. These ppl have no issues working in other countries as long as they dont support Putins massacres and wars. I work with several ppl myself that fled from Putin.
Why should I be friends with you if you support warcrimes and a dictator that has purposly killed friends of mine?

You clearly dont have insights in what is happening every single day and what Putin does to abuse weak russians to do horrible things. Every single day russians attack the infrastructure of other countries like Finland.

Uhh, so much bollocks in one post. Good fairy tales before the bedtime.

[Greenstorm33]

When it comes to nation-state level hacking there really isn’t any better bang for your buck than slipping something malicious into a heavily used open source application, or even better a popular open source library or operating system used by governments or big companies. Sure you can look at the code, but it doesn’t always happen or things get missed, and if the person who’s supposed to be looking at the code is in on it, you’re out of luck.

[BBFG#]

This version has just started disabling and not recognizing USB devices. (Arturia Keylab and Studiologic SL88).
I've had enough for awhile and completely uninstalled it. Reinstalled Bitwig 4 and it works great.