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redshift factor wrote:
kewlio wrote:to state that impulses are freely available would seem redundant. to suggest that "you can get the Revalver cab sound without revalver" when that sound by your very definition is a combination of amp and ir, is simply nonsense.
Not just any impulses. The specific impulses used in Revalver. They're all free from noisevault.com. They're not proprietary. They weren't developed for Revalver. They were simply collected from the net and packaged in with Revalver. And anyone can download them for themselves and not bother with Revalver at all, especially now that it's been jacked up by Peavey and abandoned by the side of the road.
you write as if revalver III's sound can be solely attributed to its specific use of ir's. the ones included with revalver may well be freely available but that does not mean that one is obliged to use them. i have already noted that i use third party ir's. moreover, i use them in conjunction with revalver and think of them in those terms.
redshift factor wrote:Revalver's cab sound is from the impulses. That is my definition. Stop attributing things to me that I never said.
then if you persist on defining revalver's sound solely in terms of impulses perhaps it would be more accurate to describe them in those terms alone without the qualifier. they are 'cabinet impulses' whose sound changes relative to the amp modeller they are used with. revalver's sound does not reside specifically within the cabinet impulses or the amp modelling alone but in a combination between the two. both are core components of revalver's sound. separating the two and quibbling over which emulation is superior is specious when that is not how are they are used in practice.

that you or i prefer one over the other comes down to subjective taste. i do not, however, need to prove which is superior in order to validate my own choice.

revalver continues to be in development with version III.V to be released sometime in the near future, redshift. perhaps it might help to get your facts right before you toss around provocative phrases like 'jacked up' and 'abandoned'.

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the Metal amps definitely sound different from x-gear to A3 when using metal or x-gear settings but shouldn't they since the amps and cabs are remodeled.

anyway. a test.

I copied the same guitar piece on to two tracks. nothing else on the two tracks and added a basic drum track. One with the default settings for the lead w amp in A3 and x-gear. ie I went through the preset list and selected the Lead W amp.

http://homepage.mac.com/kirk_pitts/grea ... al%20v.mp3 A3 first

Then I set all the knobs/settings to the exact settings in both x-gear and A3 and compared. 12 o'clock for everything but reverb. that was on 1.

http://homepage.mac.com/kirk_pitts/grea ... 20same.mp3 A3 first.
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AudioGuy720 wrote:
The remodeled Metal gear has more "dimension" or realism, I can hear that BUT it is certainly muddier. Which may in fact be more realistic but for fitting into a mix I'm none to happy about it. Time will tell though...

I checked out the LePou amps and THAT is metal sound!
Did you see one of my earlier posts? I think I nailed the source of my vexation down to the Condenser 414 mic model. I started doing an experiment to see if I could take an identical patch in AT3 to sound the same as the XGEAR version. EQs pre and post didn't satisfy. Cab size didn't do it (though this is kind of cool) nor did any amount of mic placement. Then I thought, "What does this sound like with other mics?" So I started with the first mic choice, the emulation of the sm 57, a mic I'm very intimate with, and in fact the only mic in the package I still own. All of the sudden the weird phasey mush and low end mud cleaned right up and there was the up-front and present rich sounding buzzsaw lead sound I was always able to get from Metal Amp W.

So what's up with that 414? In another thread someone remarked that they own one and wouldn't consider it for electric guitar due to it's midrange response, so maybe they got closer to the real thing in this version, but as they did they, imo, inadvertently moved away from good sound.

...and we all lived happily ever after. :lol:

Actually during all of this I actually got around to trying the LePou stuff and I whole heartedly agree. Fantastic high gain sound. How the hell is that free?! :shit: Obviously not the depth and flexibility of a commercial plug in package, but man, if I was broke this thing would be in most of my projects. One of the things about me I notice is that once I find a tool that I like, it tends to be my go-to thing unless it offers something very different than the tool I'm used to.
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AudioGuy720 wrote:
zerocrossing wrote:
AudioGuy720 wrote:

The remodeled Metal gear has more "dimension" or realism, I can hear that BUT it is certainly muddier. Which may in fact be more realistic but for fitting into a mix I'm none to happy about it. Time will tell though...
Fitting in a mix is something else. That depends on your engineer skills and not the ampsim or whatever you are using.

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I'm not sure if there is an "official" AmpliTube 3 thread yet, but this seems to be the closest thing, so a question:

Does anyone know is there is a way to convert (or import) AT2 presets into AT3?

I still have AT2 installed, and I do see the AT2 presets in the drop-down menu. My question is: if I remove A2 will the presets go along with it? Will they even load anymore?
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MickGael wrote:I'm not sure if there is an "official" AmpliTube 3 thread yet, but this seems to be the closest thing, so a question:

Does anyone know is there is a way to convert (or import) AT2 presets into AT3?

I still have AT2 installed, and I do see the AT2 presets in the drop-down menu. My question is: if I remove A2 will the presets go along with it? Will they even load anymore?
All the presets load up but you'll find issues with some of them. Since all the models have been given "the treatment" they all sound different to various degrees. For example, I find the reaction to input gain on a lot of the new models is drastically different but some basic tweaks should get it close and actually better. Of course, you still have AT2 so if you don't care to monkey around with it just use AT2.
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Thanks, zerocrossing :)
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Just to note, as I put in the sound samples thread, we've just posted new audio demos. You can see the preset information when you are listening to the file and download the presets in the Preset XChange. Check it out: http://bit.ly/atYO10

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Hey, Peter, I really like how the audio examples show the modules that were used now, like the Preset XChange.

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surferman wrote:the Metal amps definitely sound different from x-gear to A3 when using metal or x-gear settings but shouldn't they since the amps and cabs are remodeled.

anyway. a test.

I copied the same guitar piece on to two tracks. nothing else on the two tracks and added a basic drum track. One with the default settings for the lead w amp in A3 and x-gear. ie I went through the preset list and selected the Lead W amp.

http://homepage.mac.com/kirk_pitts/grea ... al%20v.mp3 A3 first

Then I set all the knobs/settings to the exact settings in both x-gear and A3 and compared. 12 o'clock for everything but reverb. that was on 1.

http://homepage.mac.com/kirk_pitts/grea ... 20same.mp3 A3 first.
Oh, I missed this post. Yeah, I hear it totally. That's a perfect example of the weird distant sound I'm talking about. It's like someone though a heavy blanket over it.
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Peter - IK Multimedia wrote:Just to note, as I put in the sound samples thread, we've just posted new audio demos. You can see the preset information when you are listening to the file and download the presets in the Preset XChange. Check it out: http://bit.ly/atYO10
Very cool Peter ......... thanks a bunch. Was that you playing? Nice solid rhythm chops whoever it is.

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esteso wrote:
Peter - IK Multimedia wrote:Just to note, as I put in the sound samples thread, we've just posted new audio demos. You can see the preset information when you are listening to the file and download the presets in the Preset XChange. Check it out: http://bit.ly/atYO10
Very cool Peter ......... thanks a bunch. Was that you playing? Nice solid rhythm chops whoever it is.
That was not me playing, no. I think I've uploaded one lowly clip here, that's all :)

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zerocrossing wrote:
AudioGuy720 wrote: Did you see one of my earlier posts? I think I nailed the source of my vexation down to the Condenser 414 mic model. I started doing an experiment to see if I could take an identical patch in AT3 to sound the same as the XGEAR version. EQs pre and post didn't satisfy. Cab size didn't do it (though this is kind of cool) nor did any amount of mic placement. Then I thought, "What does this sound like with other mics?" So I started with the first mic choice, the emulation of the sm 57, a mic I'm very intimate with, and in fact the only mic in the package I still own. All of the sudden the weird phasey mush and low end mud cleaned right up and there was the up-front and present rich sounding buzzsaw lead sound I was always able to get from Metal Amp W.
I did this too before I made my post and I still think the amp section sounds a bit muddier. But I'll chalk that up as a better bass response for the amp.

What sucks is we can't use old presets because now the new models are more accurate. So even though AT2, et. al. sounded good AT3 is more accurate and borked it all up. I guess in a good way.

"Time will tell" meant once I get more time to experiment. And indeed I think the SM57 model sounds best on high gain tone. Which probably means that for clean tones the SM57 isn't the go-to as in reality condensers tend to sound better (to my ear) than the 57.

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AudioGuy720 wrote: I did this too before I made my post and I still think the amp section sounds a bit muddier. But I'll chalk that up as a better bass response for the amp.
See, I feel the same way. It's like I can feel the wood and the cones moving with AT3. Muddy isn't the word I'd use, it's just more life-like. But I know what you mean about bass response.

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AT3 sounds the most like a real amp that's been recorded in a real room to me. Been listening to some mixes on the tube for the past few days; and found myself not even thinking about the guitar tone - like I do when I use Podfarm, AT2, Revalver....
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