One-Synth-Challenge: General discussion thread
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 3922 posts since 15 Dec, 2009
No let me:
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 3922 posts since 15 Dec, 2009
Rule change suggestion:
2 recent changes, but another thing that ought to be looked at imo is the host native EQ rule.
After several episodes with confusion especially from FL users, maybe it's time it was dropped?
What do you think?
There are plenty of EQ's that are free, available to all and not using much CPU, so maybe no need for this special rule that might just cause frustration and possible inadvertent loss of votes and with no real benefits?
2 recent changes, but another thing that ought to be looked at imo is the host native EQ rule.
After several episodes with confusion especially from FL users, maybe it's time it was dropped?
What do you think?
There are plenty of EQ's that are free, available to all and not using much CPU, so maybe no need for this special rule that might just cause frustration and possible inadvertent loss of votes and with no real benefits?
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- KVRAF
- 2655 posts since 18 Mar, 2011 from Spain
Well, i don't care really. If the rule must be dropped, count on me.V'ger wrote:Rule change suggestion:
2 recent changes, but another thing that ought to be looked at imo is the host native EQ rule.
After several episodes with confusion especially from FL users, maybe it's time it was dropped?
What do you think?
There are plenty of EQ's that are free, available to all and not using much CPU, so maybe no need for this special rule that might just cause frustration and possible inadvertent loss of votes and with no real benefits?
I was accustomed to my crappy built-in EQ, but there are another EQs which looks very alike, so no problem here.
Have a good day
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- KVRist
- 342 posts since 17 Nov, 2007 from Perth, Western Australia
Hey guys, I haven't read this whole thread yet but V'gar just PM'd me about the Letter of the Month thing. Very surprised.
Here's what I actually wrote. I assume they lopped it to fit etc.
To: Computer Music
From: Objectman, Western Australia
----- letter begins -----
"Competitions & Deadlines"
I've been involved in KVR Audio's "One Synth Challenge" competition for a couple of years. There's a monthly deadline and the aim is to make an instrumental track using one (voted-for) freely available VST synth. All beat, bass, lead and other elements have to be made using that synth's presets or programmed sounds. The competition is open to everyone and is a great way to hone your skills. Here's why I enter...
1. The deadline forces you to produce a tune by the end of the month.
2. I stop wasting time auditioning VSTs, sounds and mastering suites.
3. I'm learning about synthesis.
4. I'm learning about song structure.
5. I feel like I'm part of a scene.
6. I get feedback on my work.
7. There's a chance to win a prize.
I enter the One Synth Challenge to learn. As soon as a new VST instrument is voted for, you're given 4-6 weeks to produce a track. Because my skills are pretty rudimentary, I try to get in early. This often means I get over 200 listens to just one of my tunes and lots of feedback, which for me is a real buzz.
It sounds limiting, but with the absolute plethora of VSTs out there, I find rules and limits a good thing. They give focus to people like me - the "limitless and unruly" creatives.
Rather than endlessly criticizing other people's tunes, why not use a competition deadline to produce one of your own?
You can read the rules and entry terms here: http://sites.google.com/site/kvrosc/
---- letter ends -----
I dunno if I'll get the mag any time soon here in Oz to read it. Did they lop it much? Can someone scan the puppy in? Or re-post this at least to the news section of KVR OSC?
Wonder if we'll get many more entrants. My bet is that we (the party faithful) will probably just pull our socks up a bit more and make it a higher bar for the winners
Here's what I actually wrote. I assume they lopped it to fit etc.
To: Computer Music
From: Objectman, Western Australia
----- letter begins -----
"Competitions & Deadlines"
I've been involved in KVR Audio's "One Synth Challenge" competition for a couple of years. There's a monthly deadline and the aim is to make an instrumental track using one (voted-for) freely available VST synth. All beat, bass, lead and other elements have to be made using that synth's presets or programmed sounds. The competition is open to everyone and is a great way to hone your skills. Here's why I enter...
1. The deadline forces you to produce a tune by the end of the month.
2. I stop wasting time auditioning VSTs, sounds and mastering suites.
3. I'm learning about synthesis.
4. I'm learning about song structure.
5. I feel like I'm part of a scene.
6. I get feedback on my work.
7. There's a chance to win a prize.
I enter the One Synth Challenge to learn. As soon as a new VST instrument is voted for, you're given 4-6 weeks to produce a track. Because my skills are pretty rudimentary, I try to get in early. This often means I get over 200 listens to just one of my tunes and lots of feedback, which for me is a real buzz.
It sounds limiting, but with the absolute plethora of VSTs out there, I find rules and limits a good thing. They give focus to people like me - the "limitless and unruly" creatives.
Rather than endlessly criticizing other people's tunes, why not use a competition deadline to produce one of your own?
You can read the rules and entry terms here: http://sites.google.com/site/kvrosc/
---- letter ends -----
I dunno if I'll get the mag any time soon here in Oz to read it. Did they lop it much? Can someone scan the puppy in? Or re-post this at least to the news section of KVR OSC?
Wonder if we'll get many more entrants. My bet is that we (the party faithful) will probably just pull our socks up a bit more and make it a higher bar for the winners
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- KVRian
- 805 posts since 17 May, 2011 from Philadelphia
@objectman: Way to go with that letter! Very well written, and I see that you won yourself some Fabfilter plugs too. Nice!
Be great if it brings more entries. Just had a thought though, what if there are like hundreds of new submissions? We'd need to setup leagues or divisions or something... that would be interesting... could maybe even do battles between different synths...
@eq rule change
I'd be fine with that change if it happened, but I do like to use host eq for the speed factor. So much quicker to set. My preference would be for just any host eq to be allowed, they can all cancel each other out anyway can't they? But I guess it's a slippery slope. What could be next... host compressors?
Actually, that might not be so bad.
Be great if it brings more entries. Just had a thought though, what if there are like hundreds of new submissions? We'd need to setup leagues or divisions or something... that would be interesting... could maybe even do battles between different synths...
@eq rule change
I'd be fine with that change if it happened, but I do like to use host eq for the speed factor. So much quicker to set. My preference would be for just any host eq to be allowed, they can all cancel each other out anyway can't they? But I guess it's a slippery slope. What could be next... host compressors?
Actually, that might not be so bad.
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- KVRist
- 342 posts since 17 Nov, 2007 from Perth, Western Australia
@evo2sloThanks. I think if we got hundreds of submissions it might attract more prizes which could be given to "best first attempt" or "best flow" or "best track", "best programming" etc., but I doubt we'll get too many more. Increasing awareness for OSC was my aim.
@IriondaRonin What I meant by the "why not use a competition deadline..." bit was me referring to the OSC in an effort to enlighten those who have no idea of what it is. I think, because we're into it, maybe only WE would interpret that it could mean other comps. But I'm actually not aware of any other comps like this and I doubt a non-commercial synth comp would be of interest to CM.
I actually didn't think they would publish this because 1. I imagine loads of people send stuff in and 2. I couldn't see any commercial opportunities in it for CM. So I'm very pleased to see that they published in earnest - as it was intended - as a bit of of a community message and promo for the OSC. And I guess as a bit of an ad for FabFilter.
Also thanks for scanning in Guys. I doubt I'll get to see the mag for a few weeks yet here in Oz. Weirdly they didn't edit much. Guess I wasn't being controversial enough
@IriondaRonin What I meant by the "why not use a competition deadline..." bit was me referring to the OSC in an effort to enlighten those who have no idea of what it is. I think, because we're into it, maybe only WE would interpret that it could mean other comps. But I'm actually not aware of any other comps like this and I doubt a non-commercial synth comp would be of interest to CM.
I actually didn't think they would publish this because 1. I imagine loads of people send stuff in and 2. I couldn't see any commercial opportunities in it for CM. So I'm very pleased to see that they published in earnest - as it was intended - as a bit of of a community message and promo for the OSC. And I guess as a bit of an ad for FabFilter.
Also thanks for scanning in Guys. I doubt I'll get to see the mag for a few weeks yet here in Oz. Weirdly they didn't edit much. Guess I wasn't being controversial enough
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- KVRAF
- 2655 posts since 18 Mar, 2011 from Spain
Thanks for make it clear to me. Once again it was my reading comprehension lol.objectman wrote:@IriondaRonin What I meant by the "why not use a competition deadline..." bit was me referring to the OSC in an effort to enlighten those who have no idea of what it is. I think, because we're into it, maybe only WE would interpret that it could mean other comps. But I'm actually not aware of any other comps like this and I doubt a non-commercial synth comp would be of interest to CM.
Have a good day and enjoy the Fabfilter plugs
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- KVRist
- 355 posts since 24 Oct, 2007 from the bavarian badlands
I'd like to see another OSC with a more "strange" synth like it was with String Theory. Or at least a synth that hasn't hundreds of great sounding ready-to-go presets.
Nothing against z3ta or Zebralette but now we had two rather "commercial" synths and I think it's time for a strange outsider again.
Let's see if I find something to make a suggestion.
See you soon!
Nothing against z3ta or Zebralette but now we had two rather "commercial" synths and I think it's time for a strange outsider again.
Let's see if I find something to make a suggestion.
See you soon!
EAT - SLEEP - SYNTH
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- KVRist
- 342 posts since 17 Nov, 2007 from Perth, Western Australia
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- KVRist
- 342 posts since 17 Nov, 2007 from Perth, Western Australia
Also, regarding the 6 week error in the CM letter. When Fairbrusch was finally voted for a couple OSCs back, I literally had a track ready made with Ultrasonique because I thought it was going to win based on 4 or 5 votes in. I was going to blow you guys away with the speed of my entry. But Fairbrusch won that vote in the end.
So, in a way, if you're prepared to take the risk, you effectively might have around 6 weeks to pen an entry. But I took the risk and lost and then couldn't get my head around Fairbrusch for the actual entry. My Ultrasonique effort is still up there. testament to an OSC that never was.
Not in THIS dimension anyway
So, in a way, if you're prepared to take the risk, you effectively might have around 6 weeks to pen an entry. But I took the risk and lost and then couldn't get my head around Fairbrusch for the actual entry. My Ultrasonique effort is still up there. testament to an OSC that never was.
Not in THIS dimension anyway
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 3922 posts since 15 Dec, 2009
And as we know, it can't be used should Ultrasonique come up as things should be composed specifically for the challenge..
Nah, just kidding, you could always 'do a remix'..
@Pocvecem: Yea it's nice to mix it up a little, a small quirky one without many presets could be fun again like u say. I think f.i. Charlatan should be in the next vote, although it's not really that left field.
We had Odo's excellent chip synth '38911 Bytes' in OSC 30 vote, but it didn't get far and neither did H.G. Fortune's Serenity last vote so..
Nah, just kidding, you could always 'do a remix'..
@Pocvecem: Yea it's nice to mix it up a little, a small quirky one without many presets could be fun again like u say. I think f.i. Charlatan should be in the next vote, although it's not really that left field.
We had Odo's excellent chip synth '38911 Bytes' in OSC 30 vote, but it didn't get far and neither did H.G. Fortune's Serenity last vote so..
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- KVRAF
- 9847 posts since 15 Sep, 2005 from East Coast of the USA
Or if we are going to do another with a commercial synth, my votes would be Wusikststion, or the lowest priced version from the OP-X lineup. I am sure tons of people have at least Wuskstation v4 or v5 (and maybe v6).pocvecem wrote:I'd like to see another OSC with a more "strange" synth like it was with String Theory. Or at least a synth that hasn't hundreds of great sounding ready-to-go presets.
Nothing against z3ta or Zebralette but now we had two rather "commercial" synths and I think it's time for a strange outsider again.
Let's see if I find something to make a suggestion.
See you soon!
The standard OP-X synth has a been around for a while now, and a good many of KVR people have that one as well.
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- KVRian
- 687 posts since 21 Aug, 2010 from Cagliari - (Sardinia)
Ok for op-x, but wusikstation is a rompler, not a synth. Am I wrong?Examigan wrote: Or if we are going to do another with a commercial synth, my votes would be Wusikststion, or the lowest priced version from the OP-X lineup. I am sure tons of people have at least Wuskstation v4 or v5 (and maybe v6).
The standard OP-X synth has a been around for a while now, and a good many of KVR people have that one as well.
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Bronto Scorpio Bronto Scorpio https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=98170 - KVRAF
- 5546 posts since 13 Feb, 2006 from Wiesmoor, Germany
I'm completely new to this whole OSC thing so please forgive me if this is the wrong thread or something
I would love to see an U-He Bazille OSC! It isn't really freeware but it is free while it is in the alpha stage. It's one of the best VSTs out there in my opinion and really, really flexible. And it doesn't come with hundreds of presets
Cheers
Dennis
I would love to see an U-He Bazille OSC! It isn't really freeware but it is free while it is in the alpha stage. It's one of the best VSTs out there in my opinion and really, really flexible. And it doesn't come with hundreds of presets
Cheers
Dennis
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- KVRist
- 342 posts since 17 Nov, 2007 from Perth, Western Australia
Yeah, right. A remix of my repetitive 8 bar loops - presented with as many interesting effects to keep the listener from total boredom as is humanly possible (including THIS listener).V'ger wrote:And as we know, it can't be used should Ultrasonique come up as things should be composed specifically for the challenge..
Nah, just kidding, you could always 'do a remix'..
No. I suspect I'd redo a tune anyway if Ultrasonique came up again. I'm reading up on melody. I find if I write a melody directly into Finale as notes, I can be more tuneful than if I try playing anything into a keyboard. Plus I learn about actual music as a side-effect. And, in the spirit of this competition, I can plagiarise th Finale tune rather than simply exporting the midi.
Man, I have a looooooong way to go. But when I get there, all you real muso guys with all your fancy "history" and "years of experience" and "trainiing" 'n' stuff with actual "instruments", better look out. I'll make one of those innane but catchy tunes that will worm into your brain. I'll keep youse all awake at night with my genius two-note mind worm. You'll have to vote for me. Yeah, that's what I'll do.