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ghettosynth · Post by **ghettosynth** » Fri Dec 05, 2014 9:21 pm

Ned Bouhalassa wrote:Well, I took the Matrix 12 V for a second spin, took another look at that 169 deal for V 4, and got my credit card. What can I say? I'm a slutz.

It's ok Ned, sometimes you get that itch in your pants and mother nature takes over, there's nothing that you can do about it, just go with the flow.

Ingonator · Post by **Ingonator** » Sat Dec 06, 2014 9:51 am

Hi,

at the official Arturia forum i created a thread where i collected Matrix 12 + Xpander videos:
http://forum.arturia.com/index.php?topic=83591.0

This also includes tutorial videos about both the plugin and the real Matrix 12.

VariKusBrainZ · Post by **VariKusBrainZ** » Sat Dec 06, 2014 10:07 am

I thought you said the Matrix sucked ?!?!

Frantz · Post by **Frantz** » Sat Dec 06, 2014 10:18 am

VariKusBrainZ wrote:I thought you said the Matrix sucked ?!?!

You missed the exciting Ingo evolution. He discovered that if he added external FX, he could recreate his usual brass patches to his liking. Follow the latest thrilling Ingo developments in this special thread: http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... 4&t=426539

Ingonator · Post by **Ingonator** » Sat Dec 06, 2014 10:25 am

Frantz wrote:
VariKusBrainZ wrote:I thought you said the Matrix sucked ?!?!
You missed the exciting Ingo evolution. He discovered that if he added external FX, he could recreate his usual brass patches to his liking. Follow the latest thrilling Ingo developments in this special thread: http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... 4&t=426539

Yep i admit that in this case i was wrong with my first impression. Sorry...

Even without adding FXs for improving the sound it still offers tons of features you will rarely find in other VA synths (at least not in a single synth).

Frantz wrote:
VariKusBrainZ wrote:I thought you said the Matrix sucked ?!?!
You missed the exciting Ingo evolution. He discovered that if he added external FX, he could recreate his usual brass patches to his liking. Follow the latest thrilling Ingo developments in this special thread: http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... 4&t=426539

In that thread Toby from arturia provided some useful informations i was not aware of, eg. about different ways to use the Lag generator for Portamento. I also mentioned that the PAGE2 features could be used to switch off the Osc keyboard tracking to create some Drone like sounds.

Yes i like Synth Brass patches indeed which is no secret and the Oberheim synths are great for this.
ne point about such patches is that they are usuable for many styles and not as limited in their use as some of the more "experimental" stuff. One of my favorite lead sounds is a Synth Horn. I also got one in my Waldorf Pulse 2 factory patches and in my fre bank for PPG Wave 3.V.

Anyway i am also working on other kinds of patches for the Matrix-12V at the moment. Takes some time to learn the tons of features included with this synth.

Kriminal · Post by **Kriminal** » Sat Dec 06, 2014 10:34 am

Frantz wrote:
VariKusBrainZ wrote:I thought you said the Matrix sucked ?!?!
You missed the exciting Ingo evolution. He discovered that if he added external FX, he could recreate his usual brass patches to his liking. Follow the latest thrilling Ingo developments in this special thread: http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... 4&t=426539

Im thrilled...especially with all the 'tips' .... dont know what i'd do without them.... oh wait...is there a manual?

Ingonator · Post by **Ingonator** » Sat Dec 06, 2014 10:39 am

Kriminal wrote: Im thrilled...especially with all the 'tips' .... dont know what i'd do without them.... oh wait...is there a manual?

FWIW yes there is a manual indeed:
http://www.arturia.com/matrix-12-v/resources
THe manual also includes a litle part about the history of Oberheim synths.

Besides that the tutorial videos i mentioned in my new thread at the Arturia forum (those are from the official Matrix-12V website) are quite useful too. Taht thread also includes lots of link for vidoes of the real synth.

Ingonator · Post by **Ingonator** » Sat Dec 06, 2014 11:19 am

Matrix 12-V also includes a "Program Chain" page that could be used for easily accessing your 128 favorite patches while it seems to also be possible to access this by MIDI.

I added more infos and my own tests here:
http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... 1#p5963491

Z · Post by Z » Sat Dec 06, 2014 4:03 pm

I owned a Xpander which I sold in 2004 (I posted here about it when I bought it in 2002, but seems like the search doesn't go that far back).

I played around with the demo today, and bought it when my 20 minutes were up.

Yes it's close. It lacks some 'oomph' in the bottom end, but all in all and from what I can remember, it's pretty accurate.

I saw some say that it has digital oscillators, but it doesn't, it's fully analog. It did 'use digital' to keep the oscillators in tune.
There was a separate page on the Xpander where you could auto tune the oscillators, or set them to be wildly out of drift.

Wonderful instrument, and I have been waiting for this emulation ever since I sold the Xpander!

ghettosynth · Post by **ghettosynth** » Sat Dec 06, 2014 4:54 pm

Z wrote:I owned a Xpander which I sold in 2004 (I posted here about it when I bought it in 2002, but seems like the search doesn't go that far back).

I played around with the demo today, and bought it when my 20 minutes were up.

Yes it's close. It lacks some 'oomph' in the bottom end, but all in all and from what I can remember, it's pretty accurate.

To be clear, I'm not complaining about "accuracy", per se. The patches sound similar to the hardware, no doubt, but, the devil is in the details. To my ears, the filter needs to be oversampled. I can't run the synth at 176k, it sounds better at 96k but the CPU goes through the roof.

I saw some say that it has digital oscillators, but it doesn't, it's fully analog. It did 'use digital' to keep the oscillators in tune.

I don't recall that, it might have happened, or, there might be some confusion about the discussion of the Matrix 6/1000, which are DCO based designs.

electro · Post by **electro** » Sat Dec 06, 2014 4:58 pm

Solina V is superb.

Z · Post by Z » Sat Dec 06, 2014 5:17 pm

ghettosynth wrote: To be clear, I'm not complaining about "accuracy", per se.

Well, I was not directing my post to you in specific. Yeah so the filters need some work, like they always do with VA's.
IMHO, only u-he's Diva gets it about pretty much right.

Ned Bouhalassa · Post by **Ned Bouhalassa** » Sat Dec 06, 2014 5:40 pm

Here's a little something sci-fi-ish I put together in the past 24 hours. 9 instances of Matrix 12 V. Fun synth!

https://soundcloud.com/ned-bouhalassa/e ... -12-v-demo

dumbledog · Post by **dumbledog** » Sat Dec 06, 2014 5:49 pm

electro wrote:Solina V is superb.

Yeah, I haven't spent more than half an hour with any of the other three new toys because I've been having too much fun with this one, dialing in formant frequencies and whatnot. Kindof ironic, I went into the Black Friday discounts specifically looking for a string machine, grabbed Synth Squad for Amber but that synth doesn't come off as particularly intuitive, even after a few youtube vids. This one I can just go to town with immediately. Wish this had been announced a few days earlier and I would have skipped Synth Squad.

I don't know when I'm going to get around to really playing with the M12 but Solina alone was worth the hundred bucks for me.

ghettosynth · Post by **ghettosynth** » Sat Dec 06, 2014 6:28 pm

dumbledog wrote:
electro wrote:Solina V is superb.
Yeah, I haven't spent more than half an hour with any of the other three new toys because I've been having too much fun with this one, dialing in formant frequencies and whatnot. Kindof ironic, I went into the Black Friday discounts specifically looking for a string machine, grabbed Synth Squad for Amber but that synth doesn't come off as particularly intuitive, even after a few youtube vids. This one I can just go to town with immediately. Wish this had been announced a few days earlier and I would have skipped Synth Squad.

I don't know when I'm going to get around to really playing with the M12 but Solina alone was worth the hundred bucks for me.

Maybe you could post something. Every time I play the thing I feel like I'm stuck in a garage in 1984 trying to get my thing together and the rich kids walk by in their argyle sweaters and popped polos with a shiny Roland JX8P tucked under their arm. They're pointing and laughing at our shit sound and setup. Walking around to see -- exactly -- what they're pointing at, the $39 pawn shop price tag is still attached to the back of the Solina, and, I can't help feeling like I just walked into a job interview with toilet paper stuck to my shoe.

Arturia's new plugins : Solina V and Matrix 12V