When electronic music sounded new, like the future... what went wrong!

[Dasheesh]

the 80's were ruled by synth punk music.

[Dasheesh]

this was all done by intent by the record industry continually flipping the music formats trying to keep control.

[Dasheesh]

[Dasheesh]

Y'all want to have some fun? this is one of the last great techno tracks. right before it was standardized into an algorithm. I was lucky enough to see it. they went ableton soon after this.

[bermudagold]

Y'all want to have some fun? this is one of the last great techno tracks. right before it was standardized into an algorithm. I was lucky enough to see it. they went ableton soon after this.

there is no accounting for taste, so no judgement here...genuinely expanding my horizons,...but what makes this "one of the last great techno tracks"?...isn't something this homogeneous practically begging to be standardized into an algorithm?...what do you enjoy about this?...what activity does accompanying with these sonics make better?

[Dasheesh]

that level of Syncopation was done before handing it over to the laptops or daws. if you listen you can hear the flaws. it's far from perfect. they split right after, and the ableton side went for perfection. he f**ked it up. it was boring when you handed it over to the computer.

[Aloysius]

When electronic music sounded new, like the future... what went wrong!

Well, it was new at one time. Now it's old.

[bermudagold]

I’ve been in the audience where amazing music was being played to uninterested ears. I remember seeing Living Color open up for Fishbone, and I was rapt while most of the audience was kind of ignoring them because their single hadn’t hit yet.

So... people want new music... as they reject new music. How does new music break though? Honestly, I think it’s repetition.....because it becomes a social scene.

i agree with this...have seen it many times...I remember I had D'angelo's first album over a year before it dropped...I used to play it on the radio and would introduce it to everyone I met...nobody cared and thought i was crazy...fast forward album drops with radio and video support, and everybody's in love...my girlfriend at the time even began raving about it, completely oblivious to the fact that it was the same material I had introduced her to before that she didn't care for...and of course all these overnight fans had no appreciation for or the desire to hear the music from curtiss mayfield or all the other artists his sound was derivative of.

Most people interact with music in a casual, indirect way...unlike musicians and artists, they don't listen to music critically, or are really invested in it...the real investment is in the social scenes that surround it.
the industry and labels know this...that's why payola and music director control was so important when terrestrial radio was dominant...now it's the spotify playlist algorithm etc...people develop a taste for whatever you feed them the most.

[Dasheesh]

this is not hard. i don't know why it's so hard. use computers as a tool and not as the composer. don't let it make the music for you. play the machine, don't let it play you.

[Dirtgrain]

I remember seeing Living Color open up for Fishbone, and I was rapt while most of the audience was kind of ignoring them because their single hadn’t hit yet.

Ha, I saw Fishbone twice at St. Andrews in Detroit, and I saw Living Color at a small club in Ann Arbor (The Nectarine Ballroom). Good times.

[BONES]

Y'all want to have some fun? this is one of the last great techno tracks. right before it was standardized into an algorithm. I was lucky enough to see it. they went ableton soon after this

This sounds like an extended intro, a 12" remix or something. I keep waiting for the song to start but it never does.

[kritikon]

Y'all want to have some fun? this is one of the last great techno tracks. right before it was standardized into an algorithm. I was lucky enough to see it. they went ableton soon after this.

Seriously?
I like a bit of trance-inducing madness every bit as much as the next burnt out old raver, but that is not anything particularly unique or IMO even original. One monotonic riff in triplets repeated through the whole track with a tiny bit of knob twiddling (mostly the res, and a little bit of envelope). The beat sounds like a sampled riff on an old dirty sampler with any old bog standard filter...not even a good resonant filter. 1 synth and an S950 could do that, and many of us did. It was never the highlight at any underground rave. There's no melody to hook you, no great movement on the beat (none, actually). Not particularly aggressive, no build. Kinda reminds me of the hard Dutch distorted fast stuff that still lingers on. Sorry...it's a middle of the rave filler track. It's every bit as computer generated or sequencer generated as anything else. Hardfloor without the melody.

Look, I loved the whole rave period...from early on through the crappy jungle and happy hardcore nonsense, but a lot of it was intensely formulaic. Was, still is. Doesn't stop people liking it, but really that's not anything groundbreaking.

[Dasheesh]

a bit more industrial and darker then your trance mush, but the point was to dance and break a sweat, and we did. to make a song out of it the dj needs to get to work. ya'll wouldn't know much about that tho.

[excuse me please]

There seems to be some sort of delusion going on. That the future is about something new.

How could that future possibly become something else than a growing pile of polished turds??? By matter of expectation.

surely by continuing with only the old, we just get diluted versions of the past?
by breaking and rebuilding, we can find new avenues. will they all lead somewhere grand? no, some will be dingy little shit holes where you get stabbed for your shoes.

Ah, the good old wah wah effect

[Dasheesh]

y'all seriously take yourselves too seriously. everything i post on this forum is with a shit eating grin. stop protesting. stop over thinking. stop reaching for a perfection, and play some music. like, with your hands. express yourselves. and, quit being corny.