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AdvancedFollower · Post by **AdvancedFollower** » Mon Sep 05, 2022 8:50 am

PAK wrote: Sun Sep 04, 2022 8:13 pm
Googly Smythe wrote: Sun Sep 04, 2022 7:53 pmX86 = 32 bit. Not supported since v11, I think.
Native (to Cubase) 32 bit support was dropped at version 9. Since then you've required a 3rd party bit-bridge to use 32-bit plugins.

The worst thing is it doesn't support 16-bit MS-DOS plugins.

T-CM11 · Post by **T-CM11** » Mon Sep 05, 2022 9:46 am

Googly Smythe wrote: Sun Sep 04, 2022 7:53 pm X86 = 32 bit.

Ok, a misunderstanding then. I find "32 bit / 64 bit" a lot clearer - since 64 bit can also be X86:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X86-64

Trancer · Post by **Trancer** » Mon Sep 05, 2022 10:53 am

Regarding no longer supporting vst 2 in Cubase, the information comes from Steinberg.

Surprised you don't know.

here is the link

https://helpcenter.steinberg.de/hc/en/a ... donn%C3%A9

T-CM11 · Post by **T-CM11** » Mon Sep 05, 2022 11:59 am

Trancer wrote: Mon Sep 05, 2022 10:53 am Surprised you don't know.

You talkin' to me?

LeVzi · Post by **LeVzi** » Mon Sep 05, 2022 1:12 pm

MegaPixel wrote: Sun Sep 04, 2022 11:30 am
astralprojection wrote: Sun Sep 04, 2022 11:25 am can confirm, it doesnt happen here either, windows 11 cubase 12, dual monitors
Could be fixed when I start setting cubase up for dual / triple monitor use then, hopefully it is. But I most certainly wont be touching windows 11.

Why ? Windows 11 works fine here, with Cubase 12.

Seems you really prefer Bitwig so why bother picking up Cubase ? I could pick a million holes from Bitwig but thats why I demo'd it and didn't buy it.

Trancer · Post by **Trancer** » Mon Sep 05, 2022 1:22 pm

An answer to your question.

Here is the answer to your question from Steinberg.

This is where I found the information.

Kalamata Kid · Post by **Kalamata Kid** » Mon Sep 05, 2022 1:34 pm

January 19, 2022. Within the next 24 months, Steinberg's host applications and plug-ins across macOS and Windows will offer VST 3 compatibility only. VST 2 hosting will no longer be supported.

I will no longer use or update Cubase. There are a few other issues for me so with Cubase so why fight it when there are other equally great DAW's available. I'm hoping other DAW's do not adopt this policy.

Trancer · Post by **Trancer** » Mon Sep 05, 2022 2:35 pm

There is no question of fighting here.

Where do you see there is a battle here?

Just an answer to a question about Cubase 12 no longer supporting vst 2.

Indeed there are other Daw,

Hoping indeed that the other Daw do not follow.

A strategic mistake by Steinberg in any case.

Especially since few companies switch their catalog to vst 3.

To name a few (Arturia / Native Instruments).

We'll see what happens next... about Cubase and the other Daws.

T-CM11 · Post by **T-CM11** » Mon Sep 05, 2022 2:38 pm

Trancer wrote: Mon Sep 05, 2022 2:35 pm Just an answer to a question about Cubase 12 no longer supporting vst 2.

Cubase 12 still supports VST2. Read it in the article you posted. At which version it won't anymore is still unclear.

pixel85 · Post by **pixel85** » Mon Sep 05, 2022 3:03 pm

AdvancedFollower wrote: Mon Sep 05, 2022 8:50 am
PAK wrote: Sun Sep 04, 2022 8:13 pm
Googly Smythe wrote: Sun Sep 04, 2022 7:53 pmX86 = 32 bit. Not supported since v11, I think.
Native (to Cubase) 32 bit support was dropped at version 9. Since then you've required a 3rd party bit-bridge to use 32-bit plugins.
The worst thing is it doesn't support 16-bit MS-DOS plugins.

It hurts more than when end of The New Kids on The Block was announced.
We have to wait when 16bit plugins become popular again (for their vintage sound).

Funkybot's Evil Twin · Mon Sep 05, 2022 3:04 pm

T-CM11 wrote: Mon Sep 05, 2022 2:38 pm
Trancer wrote: Mon Sep 05, 2022 2:35 pm Just an answer to a question about Cubase 12 no longer supporting vst 2.
Cubase 12 still supports VST2. Read it in the article you posted. At which version it won't anymore is still unclear.

Cubase 12 does have VST2 support. BUT Cubase 12 does NOT support VST2 when running on native Apple Silicon mode*.

*They make it sound like VST2's don't work at all on Apple Silicon, but we all know that's just the Steinberg marketing department making dubious claims because there are hundreds of VST2 plugins that run natively on Apple Silicon.

dionenoid · Post by **dionenoid** » Mon Sep 05, 2022 3:12 pm

Trancer wrote: Mon Sep 05, 2022 2:35 pm There is no question of fighting here.

Where do you see there is a battle here?

Just an answer to a question about Cubase 12 no longer supporting vst 2.

Indeed there are other Daw,

Hoping indeed that the other Daw do not follow.

A strategic mistake by Steinberg in any case.

Especially since few companies switch their catalog to vst 3.

To name a few (Arturia / Native Instruments).

We'll see what happens next... about Cubase and the other Daws.

Uhm, every company has either switched to vst3 or is in the process of doing so. Arturia is vst3, most NI stuff is vst3 (NI is slow tho).

Trancer · Post by **Trancer** » Mon Sep 05, 2022 3:43 pm

Yes of course the other publishers are switching to vst 3 more and more.

But other Daws don't make restrictions for vst 2, well Steinberg

Indeed, announcement of 24 months but uncertainties.

Thought is that moving to Cubase while interesting in some ways, the indefinite planned obsolescence of vst 2 support is a real problem.

alexfalcao · Post by **alexfalcao** » Mon Sep 05, 2022 4:04 pm

[quote=Thought is that moving to Cubase while interesting in some ways, the indefinite planned obsolescence of vst 2 support is a real problem.
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Indeed it is, I think it's too early to block vst2, still there's lots of plugins on users projects still on VST2

jonljacobi · Post by **jonljacobi** » Mon Sep 05, 2022 7:44 pm

I like Steinberg and Cubase, but the sooner the de facto plugin standard is out of propriety hands, the better.

That said, you can stick with perfectly usable older versions. Heresy, I know.