Official Serum 2 thread!

[Korg Supporter]

Are there nice Serum 2 libraries for meditation, relaxation and ASMR? Is anybody going to produce some soon?

[User3]

Thank you. However, as for me such sounds do not associate with meditation. I hope that for Serum 2 it will be possible to create presets sounding more pleasant to the ear and more suitable for meditation and relaxation.

[adl]

Making presets in Serum 2. I found it quiet interesting to watch this guy:


He also made a superb "Everything in Serum 2 explained" video i linked in this thread.

[BBFG#]

Thank you. However, as for me such sounds do not associate with meditation. I hope that for Serum 2 it will be possible to create presets sounding more pleasant to the ear and more suitable for meditation and relaxation.

Agree. Too much of a harsh metallic ring happening in that last example.

[swilow11]

Damn, the SVF filter is great. Can create some great morphing sounds just by fiddling with resonance. I created a series of band pass notches that yield nice almost high pass sound but turning up resonance morphs the filter into a sort of glassy phaser. So cool. Although did get some of the odd zippery sounds at extreme values which may have just been very brief clipping.

Yeah, the SVF filter is seriously powerful! That glassy phaser effect sounds awesome—especially with resonance morphing. The zippery sounds at extreme values could be from clipping, but sometimes digital filters also introduce stepping artifacts at very fast modulations. Have you tried tweaking gain staging or smoothing parameters?

Yeah, I should have added that increasing smoothing essentially fixed the zippery sound. And the filter topology I chose was ridiculously resonant so not surprised it clipped or did whatever it did.

It just sounds so nice to really smoothly flow from a squelchy aciddy saw into glassy inharmonicity...

[zerocrossing]

Here's some proof. Both of these are playing a G2 note but you can see one keytracking method produces an A#2 and the other a G5

I didn't try that, but I just ran a sawtooth through a filter with the resonance cranked to self oscillate. I tuned it to an octave and played it up and down my 61 key controller and it seemed perfectly tuned to me.

That test isn't going to work. The filter looks in-tune because the sawtooth has a strong harmonic near the fundamental. So what you're seeing is just the harmonic of the sawtooth.

That's why I recommended using noise because noise has every frequency so you can easily see the specific frequency the filter is peaking at.

To put this another way, what happens when you filter a sine wave? It just decreases in volume, it doesn't change the frequency of the sine wave. That's what's happening in your test.

It's not a deal breaker but it's annoying when you're trying to do advanced stuff like use comb filters to do physical modelling type sounds where the filter needs to be at the right note.

I'm still not following you. I can tune the resonance to whatever harmonic I want, and it follows up the keyboard giving me the same interval on every note. How is that not tuned?

[swilow11]

A sawtooth has all the odd and even harmonics so whatever point is boosted will be a harmonic frequency. You can never not have a resonance boost with a sawtooth that is inharmonic. This is why a filter sweep sounds good and not totally chaotic.

[Rastkovic]

Here's some proof. Both of these are playing a G2 note but you can see one keytracking method produces an A#2 and the other a G5

Well, at least it works, if keytracking on the filter is turned on. Yes, you need to tune, but that's not a big thing in my opinion. You can also see the actual frequency of the filter in the clamp. But I admit, I would expect the same behaviour from the note mod source. Strange.

filter-tuning.jpg

*What surprises me a bit more, is that none of the filters are self-resonant. Or did I miss something? I was never a Serum 1 power user, to be honest.

[_leras]

Is there a way to play a reversed sample (let say E-piano) in time with all notes? I mean when I reverse the sample inside the Serum and play a chord, due to pitch/speed every sample ends at different times, I want them to end at the same time, is this possible and if so how to do it?

You'd need to reverse the midi notes, record it, then reverse the recording.

[liquidsound]

Or switch your headphones L>R

[HOTF]

I'm still having a lot of fun with Serum 2 at the moment. Imported a bank of 90s rompler samples yesterday. That layered with some modern wavetable action makes great evolving pads

[coroknight]

Here's some proof. Both of these are playing a G2 note but you can see one keytracking method produces an A#2 and the other a G5

Well, at least it works, if keytracking on the filter is turned on. Yes, you need to tune, but that's not a big thing in my opinion. You can also see the actual frequency of the filter in the clamp. But I admit, I would expect the same behaviour from the note mod source. Strange.


filter-tuning.jpg


*What surprises me a bit more, is that none of the filters are self-resonant. Or did I miss something? I was never a Serum 1 power user, to be honest.

Imo if you have to manually tune keytacking then it doesn’t work properly.

I use vital, phase plant, and the bitwig grid and none of them require tuning to get the right notes. In vital for example i just turn the filter on and turn the keytracking job knob all the way up and it works properly.

I’m tired of talking about this so I’m not going to respond to keytracking replies anymore. It doesn’t work properly so just accept it and move on. At this point it feels like I’m responding to a combination of ignorance and fanboyism which is a waste of time.

[ChanceB]

Is there a way to play a reversed sample (let say E-piano) in time with all notes? I mean when I reverse the sample inside the Serum and play a chord, due to pitch/speed every sample ends at different times, I want them to end at the same time, is this possible and if so how to do it?

Try switching to the granular osc and turning on key tracking for the length knob but not the scan knob. Probably won’t sound good across the keyboard though. Or try the spectral oscillator

[kraster]

Imo if you have to manually tune keytacking then it doesn’t work properly.

You don't have to manually tune keytracking if you just hit the keytracking switch beside the filter.

You have to manually tune the filter's base frequency so it's in tune with the oscillators.

[coroknight]

You don't have to manually tune keytracking

You have to manually tune the filter's base frequency

LOL