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Sampleconstruct wrote: Fri Nov 21, 2025 2:01 am self-resonating dystopian dronescape
That's what I'm talking about :clap:

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I really really want alternative skin for it. Neon on black is quite problematic for the eyes.
Murderous duck!

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Sampleconstruct wrote: Fri Nov 21, 2025 2:01 am E-bowed cittern with some tube distortion processed by two instances of Valhalla FutureVerb with 100% feedback resulting in a self-resonating dystopian dronescape.
That sounds awesome! Any chance that you work on VFV presets like you did here? https://www.patchpool.net/fxmix.html
Find my (music) related software projects here: github.com/Fannon

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david.beholder wrote: Fri Nov 21, 2025 7:26 am I really really want alternative skin for it. Neon on black is quite problematic for the eyes.
One would think that the Valhalla plugins would be among the easiest out there, to allow user customisation of themes/skins.

Would likely be able to be entirely customised just with a text file, should the developer add support for this.

Does anyone know if Valhalla have ever commented on such a feature?

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MrJubbly wrote: Fri Nov 21, 2025 7:32 pm
david.beholder wrote: Fri Nov 21, 2025 7:26 am I really really want alternative skin for it. Neon on black is quite problematic for the eyes.
One would think that the Valhalla plugins would be among the easiest out there, to allow user customisation of themes/skins.

Would likely be able to be entirely customised just with a text file, should the developer add support for this.

Does anyone know if Valhalla have ever commented on such a feature?
Well that's full fledged feature request but since they don't have any raster graphics it wouldn't be any hard.

My request is even easier, I filed actual support request but to no reply unfortunately.
Murderous duck!

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david.beholder wrote: Fri Nov 21, 2025 8:47 pm My request is even easier, I filed actual support request but to no reply unfortunately.
A user customizable function would sort it out for all people no matter what preference and could then be applied to all the plugins...hence any issues regarding color schemes would all be sorted in the Future.

I myself have more issue than just the Neon on black and I know I'm probably alone with my specific problems so I can't really ask any developer to spend time on a solution... however, when it comes to Valhalla plugins a simple text file with the option to change the colors would solve it not only for me but everyone else as well.... it does not need to be any fancy, could be super basic with a dual color scheme, just background and foreground...but fancy options would obviously be welcomed.

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Considering the colors change with the modes and there are gradients, it may not be as easy as it seems. And they likely chose the colors specifically for each mode and the design scheme is very deliberate. So I think it's unlikely. But I wouldn't mind being wrong. Certainly would be fun to be able to customize.

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Funkybot's Evil Twin wrote: Sat Nov 22, 2025 1:26 pm Considering the colors change with the modes and there are gradients, it may not be as easy as it seems. And they likely chose the colors specifically for each mode and the design scheme is very deliberate. So I think it's unlikely. But I wouldn't mind being wrong. Certainly would be fun to be able to customize.
Presumably, such a proposed customizable theme feature, could also simply include an "override mode/colors" option? Which, if enabled, would simply ignore the various default assigned colors for each specific mode, in favor of a user-defined global theme setting?

But I suppose, a multi-theme customisation could also be included for each mode/color variant (might be slightly more complicated to implement) but doable.

The colors for Valhalla Delay, for example, appear to be based upon a single base rgba value for the panels (displayed at various brightness and/or alpha variants), along with the base colour values for the background and text colors. (so probably three different colour parameters, at most?)

FutureVerb and VintageVerb are slightly more colorful, with both appearing to use a type of colour gradient instead. Albeit, one colour displayed per panel. - or even that could perhaps be replaced by simple globally defined base colours?

Should still be pretty easy to implement, dependant upon if the developer was willing to add such support.

I think these plugins were designed to be very useable and practical. So one would imagine, the developer might be open to adding such an "accessibility" option.

Which might benefit visually impaired or challenged users. Especially those who may experience difficulty when viewing certain colours and might prefer instead more consistency, contrast or dark text on light background options.

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Kr3eM wrote: Sat Nov 22, 2025 6:51 am
david.beholder wrote: Fri Nov 21, 2025 8:47 pm My request is even easier, I filed actual support request but to no reply unfortunately.
A user customizable function would sort it out for all people no matter what preference and could then be applied to all the plugins...hence any issues regarding color schemes would all be sorted in the Future.
I don't really want to customize anything myself, I want light theme so my eyes doesn't hurt.

Customizable function would also require additional ways to reset colors, manage, store etc

I mean customization would solve my issue but it's more expensive in terms of amount of work way to sort it.
Murderous duck!

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david.beholder wrote: Sun Nov 23, 2025 2:41 am I don't really want to customize anything myself, I want light theme so my eyes doesn't hurt.

Customizable function would also require additional ways to reset colors, manage, store etc

I mean customization would solve my issue but it's more expensive in terms of amount of work way to sort it.
Not necessarily (see above). It largely depends on how the current skin/themes are coded and how easy or otherwise it would be to modify that. Only the developer would really know for sure, which is the case.

If you ever use Kilohearts plugins, for one example, you may be aware that they also don't include an integrated skinning customization option within their UI. However, they do instead support user-customization of their plugins, via a simple editable text/config file. Which is why I suggested that as a possible quick work-around for Valhalla.

I do understand your point though. You just want the ability to access a light mode for legibility, which may ostensibly seem the easier option to implement.

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To understand if you want reverb only, or delay only, or a mix like a diffuse delay or delay+full reverb, or delay after reverb:

Where you want muted no echo/predelay and reverb only, you change the routing to rev>echo and turn the echo level to 0%.

If you want predelay or echo/delay only or a diffused echo or no reverb, you change the routing to echo>rev and adjust the rev level to give you diffusing of the delay (a level in between 0-100) or a full on echo/delay+reverb mix (rev level at 100%), or set to Rev level to 0% for no reverb, only delay.

I had to type it out like that so i could remember how the routing/modules work. Hopefully it helps other understand too. I believe this is correct.

and yes i know the output mix mixes the dry signal (let’s call it module 1) plus the 2nd module (reverb or echo) and then the wet only from the 2nd module into the 3rd module (echo or reverb), all back into a final dry/wet mix out of the plugin. (Referring to the GS gif diagram Cryphonik posted on the previous page 17)
cryophonik wrote: Wed Nov 19, 2025 10:45 pm FutureVerb_Signal_Flow.jpeg

Another user (hey212) posted this on GS

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Funkybot's Evil Twin wrote: Sat Nov 22, 2025 1:26 pm And they likely chose the colors specifically for each mode and the design scheme is very deliberate.
As far as I know Sean's wife does the GUIs - I have a hunch that during the development of FutureVerb he was so busy coding away that he failed to do his part of the household chores
so she was pissed... :hihi:


(Ubermod and Delay? All kisses and flowers by the look of it. :love:)

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jens wrote: Mon Dec 01, 2025 1:21 am
Funkybot's Evil Twin wrote: Sat Nov 22, 2025 1:26 pm And they likely chose the colors specifically for each mode and the design scheme is very deliberate.
As far as I know Sean's wife does the GUIs - I have a hunch that during the development of FutureVerb he was so busy coding away that he failed to do his part of the household chores
so she was pissed... :hihi:


(Ubermod and Delay? All kisses and flowers by the look of it. :love:)
Bit harsh ! I reckon Futureverb looks great! pretty trippy all good on this end!

TO contrast I reckon Ubermod is as bland as anything.

:party:

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Yeah, when it comes down to it it's mostly a matter of taste of course... that's why my post wasn't meant to be taken 100% serious.

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Josephhh wrote: Mon Dec 01, 2025 9:13 am
jens wrote: Mon Dec 01, 2025 1:21 am
Funkybot's Evil Twin wrote: Sat Nov 22, 2025 1:26 pm And they likely chose the colors specifically for each mode and the design scheme is very deliberate.
As far as I know Sean's wife does the GUIs - I have a hunch that during the development of FutureVerb he was so busy coding away that he failed to do his part of the household chores
so she was pissed... :hihi:


(Ubermod and Delay? All kisses and flowers by the look of it. :love:)
Bit harsh ! I reckon Futureverb looks great! pretty trippy all good on this end!

TO contrast I reckon Ubermod is as bland as anything.

:party:
Echorus is one of my favorite modulation plugins. It almost sounds as warm as a Juno chorus and can do more!

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