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[Dean Aka Nekro]

Did i never mention how much those Peavey shitfield erm sorry shefield speakers are plain awful? I don't like them at all and they don't suit high-gain stuff at all IMHHO (They suit cheap solid-state practice amps or make a decent amp sound like stale muck). Although i am not saying that was certainly the issue as obviously i did not try or hear that one my friend. I'd rather have it in a head format but they don't do them so when i do get one the last thing it will be doing is flexing the shitfield. Their bass cabs/stock speakers seem fine, Just them shitfield jobs. Notice anyone who uses a 5150 or 6505 and if you see them with a matching cab its been fitted with different brand speakers or more likely they will have a Mesa Recto cab or a Marshall 1960...etc

YMMV and this is just very personal disgust at the 5150/6505 cabs dude
Have as much love for them almost as much as Hink has for Les Pauls

Yes, this test was like having you in the room for the shitfield - , and Hink for the LP - hate, good fun, why didn't we go for a beer afterwards ?

Seriously, you might want to wait for a head version or buy a s/h big one instead.
50W rules are made to be broken ...
We need
MORE POWER !

Lol,
susiwong

Well did have a 5150 Mk II at one point but its gone, If i came across one when i do have the money and am looking who knows i might break the rule. I missed the Epi LP part also first time around But the way you pointed it out caused me to spill my cup of tea Nice one and now i gotta change my t-shirt

[Uncle E]

I used to have a Peavey Classic 50 4x10 cabinet that was equally garbage. Installing Kendrick speakers (which were probably nowhere near as good as what's available these days) was like lifting a heavy down blanket off the front of the cab.

[Dean Aka Nekro]

A really good video demonstrating the importance of speaker choice to match what amp you are using/wanting to achieve. Yes EQ can do some of the work but the speaker of choice just makes it so much easier:



All the best

[Dean Aka Nekro]

I used to have a Peavey Classic 50 4x10 cabinet that was equally garbage. Installing Kendrick speakers (which were probably nowhere near as good as what's available these days) was like lifting a heavy down blanket off the front of the cab.

Well i am glad it is not just me whom has felt very unimpressed with HP's speakers Eric, Not that it would change my mind but it is intresting since the 5150/6505 cab/combo speaker and the Classic range are totally different but from your experience with that range, susiwong has a classic 30 or 50 IIRC and also heard the shitfield in all its erm 'glory' and i know the shitfield all too well that each was equally lousy at what they are meant to do. I did/do like the 15" in the delta blues (possibly due to the positive experience with peavey's bass/pa cabs and it probably being a modified bass driver )

How about your Classic combo susiwong man? Any speaker swaps with that one? I remember the little peavey 8'inch combo you have sounded naff until you fired it through an external (probably Marshall/Park 4x12"?)

Cheers

Dean

[Hink]

I used to have a Peavey Classic 50 4x10 cabinet that was equally garbage. Installing Kendrick speakers (which were probably nowhere near as good as what's available these days) was like lifting a heavy down blanket off the front of the cab.

I suspect that was from the era of Peavey Classics I hated, I had one in the late 80s that was terrible. Though tbh I have found that the problem with a lot Peaveys was that they sound plastic and changing speakers did not cure this...I think it's called the VT series of Peaveys that I speak of

[trimph1]

I think that what happened to Peavey in the '80's affected pretty much a lot of amp co's though.

Most of my mucking abouts building amp cabs now has been with these things....

http://professional.celestion.com/guitar/

or these..

http://www.usspeaker.com/Maverick-1.htm

Mind, I'm still playing around with these things so any other suggestions as to what to check out will be mucho appreciated...

[Hink]

I think that what happened to Peavey in the '80's affected pretty much a lot of amp co's though.

Most of my mucking abouts building amp cabs now has been with these things....

http://professional.celestion.com/guitar/

or these..

http://www.usspeaker.com/Maverick-1.htm

Mind, I'm still playing around with these things so any other suggestions as to what to check out will be mucho appreciated...

I didn't like their 70s guitar amps either and that is what the one I had was, from the 70s (I bought it used in 79) however though I can honestly say there are very few peavey guitar amps I would even consider owning. (I also have had an old backstage and a backstage from the 80s and hated them worse) Their sound re-enforcement gear and bass amps are an entirely different story. Our entire PA was Peavey including the SP1 speakers with added midrange cabs (and for shows we rented a pair of subwoofers with a Phase Linear amp) we had 6 peavey monitors (we were 3 piece) an MK 16 channel board (built into the road case type) a cs 1200, two cs 800s and a cs 400 and for an 80s metal band we rocked the house no matter where we played (our drummer with a sonor dual 24" kicks with extenders helped a lot )

[susiwong]

How about your Classic combo susiwong man? Any speaker swaps with that one? I remember the little peavey 8'inch combo you have sounded naff until you fired it through an external (probably Marshall/Park 4x12"?)

Dean, perfectly agreed about speaker importance !

Here's a quick rundown of mine, please keep in mind I'm from the warm, round Haynes, Grissom, Betts, Ralphs, Mason school of tone, as opposed to the glassy, biting SRV- or Hendrix type, no high gain here either, so your mileage will definitely vary.

The Classic 50 212 (very early model) still has the original Blue Marvels, and I hope to keep them for a very long time. They are absolutely perfect, and the decent efficiency helps with the small EL84 power stage, it's loud enough clean even on a big stage.
Can't speak for the 10" Eric mentioned.

The Peavey Royal 8 indeed is crap on its own, it comes alive very much dimed through my 212s / 412s. It is very loud then and crunches in a cool, uncivilized Keef way.

My current speaker lineup includes a 1922 Marshall 212 and a 1960B both with T75 which are used for Mesas, rack stuff and the Kitty Hawk, a Fender FM412 sounding mighty fine with the clean Angel but only so-so with a Marshall (I only bought it for the fine plywood cab, speakers will eventually get replaced) and my babies, a full stack of Park labeled 1960s (identical to Marshall 1960s but less decorated and fitted with the wonderful low efficiency G12-35s), Marshall heaven, also perfect for the Steavens and most every other overdriven amp .
I would buy more of those 140W Park cabs if I found them locally .
I also have a set of vintage 50W Celestions with a decidedly ratty tone, great for dirty rock'n'roll or maybe punk.
The Parks have custom made 18mm plywood backs instead of Marshall's stock MDF.

Future speaker upgrades will probably be WGS, ET65, Reaper, Green Beret or similar, possibly a pair of Blackhawks.

Ymmv,
susiwong

[Uncle E]

The Peavey Penta kicks some serious ass and I think the JSX is surprisingly recto sounding for a Peavey. The built-in noise gate is awesome, too. I've never played either one through a Peavey cabinet so maybe that helps.

[susiwong]

The Peavey Penta kicks some serious ass and I think the JSX is surprisingly recto sounding for a Peavey. The built-in noise gate is awesome, too. I've never played either one through a Peavey cabinet so maybe that helps.

Agreed about the Penta or the identical Rossington Signature, the Rossington stack sounds very marshally in a good way.

Ymmv,
susiwong

[hibidy]

"how not to make an inspirational demo"



Sorry but to me that doesn't sound too good

[susiwong]

"how not to make an inspirational demo"

How to make a demo doing a fair representation of a fine amp and have the Flash idiots lowpass it to death for you
Notice how muffled the voice sounds, too ?
To give you some point of reference, the middle channel really sounds like an 800, with a bit of Classic 50 thrown in @ the low mids.
I would definitely like one ...
Ymmv,
susiwong

[Uncle E]

Here's a quick rundown of mine, please keep in mind I'm from the warm, round Haynes, Grissom, Betts, Ralphs, Mason school of tone, as opposed to the glassy, biting SRV- or Hendrix type, no high gain here either, so your mileage will definitely vary.

You'll love the Red Fang, it's big and warm. I like the glassy, biting SRV/Hendrix thing, which is why I love the 4 alnico 10's in my Blue Angel, but I also like a barky Greenback on Marshalls. My homemade 4x12 cab has some 30 year old 30W Celestions in it, it's not nearly as thick sounding as modern cabinets but it has an amazing chime that those lack.

[Hink]

How about your Classic combo susiwong man? Any speaker swaps with that one? I remember the little peavey 8'inch combo you have sounded naff until you fired it through an external (probably Marshall/Park 4x12"?)

Dean, perfectly agreed about speaker importance !

Here's a quick rundown of mine, please keep in mind I'm from the warm, round Haynes, Grissom, Betts, Ralphs, Mason school of tone, as opposed to the glassy, biting SRV- or Hendrix type, no high gain here either, so your mileage will definitely vary.

The Classic 50 212 (very early model) still has the original Blue Marvels, and I hope to keep them for a very long time. They are absolutely perfect, and the decent efficiency helps with the small EL84 power stage, it's loud enough clean even on a big stage.
Can't speak for the 10" Eric mentioned.

The Peavey Royal 8 indeed is crap on its own, it comes alive very much dimed through my 212s / 412s. It is very loud then and crunches in a cool, uncivilized Keef way.

My current speaker lineup includes a 1922 Marshall 212 and a 1960B both with T75 which are used for Mesas, rack stuff and the Kitty Hawk, a Fender FM412 sounding mighty fine with the clean Angel but only so-so with a Marshall (I only bought it for the fine plywood cab, speakers will eventually get replaced) and my babies, a full stack of Park labeled 1960s (identical to Marshall 1960s but less decorated and fitted with the wonderful low efficiency G12-35s), Marshall heaven, also perfect for the Steavens and most every other overdriven amp .
I would buy more of those 140W Park cabs if I found them locally .
I also have a set of vintage 50W Celestions with a decidedly ratty tone, great for dirty rock'n'roll or maybe punk.
The Parks have custom made 18mm plywood backs instead of Marshall's stock MDF.

Future speaker upgrades will probably be WGS, ET65, Reaper, Green Beret or similar, possibly a pair of Blackhawks.

Ymmv,
susiwong

I'm surprised you dont have some fanes, I had fanes in both a hi-watt 4x12 and a tusc 2x12 (the onlly thing that company did right imo), both were awesome cabs. I have been thinking about geting fanes to swap out sometimes just recently...I can say one thing for sure, that hi-watt was the loudest 4x12 I ever heard and was awesome with both my plexi and my boogie

I guy I use to jam with a lot had an old Marshall 4x12 'Tallboy' that was interesting, he had a JCM 800 on it but I tried it a lot with both my plexi and boogie (and vice versa, he liked to use my hi-watt) but I still preferred the hi-watt

[hibidy]

"how not to make an inspirational demo"

How to make a demo doing a fair representation of a fine amp and have the Flash idiots lowpass it to death for you
Notice how muffled the voice sounds, too ?
To give you some point of reference, the middle channel really sounds like an 800, with a bit of Classic 50 thrown in @ the low mids.
I would definitely like one ...
Ymmv,
susiwong

Other vids I looked up had it sounding terrific, it was just this one that was like "yikes" ....... and it's the official vid