Is there any synth out there that has the sound quality of U-He Diva?
- KVRAF
- 5234 posts since 25 Feb, 2008
Try using the bandpass (multimode) filter in self oscillation as the oscillator.pdxindy wrote:Diva osc's are free running... so each kick will sound different and depending on where the phase is at when the note is triggered may be stronger or weaker sounding...
- KVRAF
- 2260 posts since 25 Jun, 2008 from Montreal, Canada
Hoooo yeah!pdxindy wrote:nice f..kin rackhibidy wrote:not "friend" really?
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- Banned
- 18651 posts since 2 Oct, 2001 from England
something i really dont like. I prefer the option to sync the phase to gate/trig for bass sounds and percussion sounds. i did mention it in testing, not sure if it will be in an update, i hope so.pdxindy wrote:Diva osc's are free running... so each kick will sound different and depending on where the phase is at when the note is triggered may be stronger or weaker sounding...
- KVRAF
- 5234 posts since 25 Feb, 2008
It was discussed a fair bit.Kriminal wrote:something i really dont like. I prefer the option to sync the phase to gate/trig for bass sounds and percussion sounds. i did mention it in testing, not sure if it will be in an update, i hope so.
The (fairly unarguable) reason that Diva doesn't offer phase retriggering is that none of the analogue synths that Diva seeks to model has phase retriggered oscillators.
There was talk of adding a digital oscillator at some later stage. Whether that's still on the cards...
- KVRAF
- 26983 posts since 3 Feb, 2005 from in the wilds
I suspect it will get in there cause enough people asked for phase reset on note on... Maybe as a separate 'digital' osc module... which I would like to see for other reasons too.Kriminal wrote:something i really dont like. I prefer the option to sync the phase to gate/trig for bass sounds and percussion sounds. i did mention it in testing, not sure if it will be in an update, i hope so.pdxindy wrote:Diva osc's are free running... so each kick will sound different and depending on where the phase is at when the note is triggered may be stronger or weaker sounding...
I enjoy the variability of the free running osc's and am content with the options in Diva. If I really want phase reset, I use a different synth. But I also tend to aim for that sort of variability and if you want more repeatable sounds I can understand you wishing for the feature...
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- KVRian
- 1084 posts since 7 Jan, 2008 from Finland
Kriminal wrote:something i really dont like. I prefer the option to sync the phase to gate/trig for bass sounds and percussion sounds. i did mention it in testing, not sure if it will be in an update, i hope so.pdxindy wrote:Diva osc's are free running... so each kick will sound different and depending on where the phase is at when the note is triggered may be stronger or weaker sounding...
To me even arpegio sounds need phase trig.
- u-he
- 30223 posts since 8 Aug, 2002 from Berlin
Yep. We'll probably add a sync to key trigger function to a fixed phase. (as explained often before, a user adjustable phase isn't easily implemented)hakey wrote:It was discussed a fair bit.Kriminal wrote:something i really dont like. I prefer the option to sync the phase to gate/trig for bass sounds and percussion sounds. i did mention it in testing, not sure if it will be in an update, i hope so.
The (fairly unarguable) reason that Diva doesn't offer phase retriggering is that none of the analogue synths that Diva seeks to model has phase retriggered oscillators.
There was talk of adding a digital oscillator at some later stage. Whether that's still on the cards...
The main reasoning behind not doing this initially was to prevent preset banks from being full of sterile sounds. This IMHO could have affected Diva's perception as authentic sounding. Well, now that we proved our point we'll evaluate possibilities that are more typical for digital synths
We btw. noticed that the attack of analogue synths if very, very hard to match. The main problem is that digital synths need to put voices to sleep when they're not heard. So playing a new note requires us for a voice to "wake it up", where the filter envelope and lfo may have processed in the background. This comes as a sudden change that may randomly cause clicks and pops. Only with Diva 1.1.1 we're now absolutely satisfied with this (well, Arksun was hammering us with this issue, rightly so, thanks mate!). Just keep in mind that we're very precious about - I kid you not - months invested into analogue attack mojo so we're bit a wear about adding such a shortcut as key reset
- u-he
- 30223 posts since 8 Aug, 2002 from Berlin
Not human error.Crackbaby wrote:i can't get the kicks to sound as good as with UNO-LX.
Human error..? Possible
Apart from the osc reset, all analogue synths we have feature dc-blockers in the filter feedback. In fact, a Minimoog does not have much self-oscillation below 100Hz. So try to get a 808ish kick with Oooph out of a Minimoog (well, our's anyway), you'll always fail.
The best chance in Diva should be had with the BITE filters. I would take the BITE highpass for the self oscillation and use any lowpass to taste to shape the sound. I am far away from any daw though, I can't try myself.
Cheers,
Urs
- KVRAF
- 2083 posts since 28 Feb, 2011
Good on ya!Urs wrote:Only with Diva 1.1.1 we're now absolutely satisfied with this (well, Arksun was hammering us with this issue, rightly so, thanks mate!). Just keep in mind that we're very precious about - I kid you not - months invested into analogue attack mojo so we're bit a wear about adding such a shortcut as key reset
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- KVRAF
- 2973 posts since 10 Sep, 2003 from Karlskoga, Stockholm, Sweden
Thanks for the hint Urs! The HPF Bite works great! I had actually used the Bite lowpass before, but used to much resonance which gave me a "hardcore" kick. Backing off some of the highpass bite's resonance and i got a nice bassdrum! 
- KVRAF
- 20890 posts since 22 Nov, 2000 from Southern California
pdxindy wrote:nice f..kin rack
"She's got a great ass, and you've got your head all up in it!"
- KVRAF
- 20890 posts since 22 Nov, 2000 from Southern California
Dark Zebra?hakey wrote:There was talk of adding a digital oscillator at some later stage.
