Harmor = best additive resynthesizer?

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whyterabbyt wrote:
Wildfunk wrote:But Alchemy can do resynthesis, Loom can't!
Would you care to explain how the Wave module's operation in Loom fails to count as resynthesis, given that it certainly appears to converts a wave file into a partial structure with a defined number of bands that the rest of Loom's modules, which all appear to operate within the FFT domain, can operate on.

The scientific definition you're using for 'resynthesis' would be useful here.
I doubt he can answer! Because:
Neon Breath wrote:
Wildfunk wrote:
Neon Breath wrote:So you tried it?
No, i just judged by the audio demos.
@ Ah-Dziz:
Demo will be available but I don't know when. Currently Air is beta testing a new update and I believe they will release the demos for all their products together with the new update.

I like the Groove3 tutorial about Loom. It does cover great deal which unfortunately the manual doesn't. You can see the introduction video there.
http://www.groove3.com/str/Loom-Explained.html
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Tricky-Loops wrote:How many ad-blockers do you use? :P
:D Of course i check new synths...
Tricky-Loops wrote:Seriously, Serum (for example) is quite tempting but it's not an additive synth, of course.
I can load wavetables into Harmor too ;)
quantum7 wrote:Porsche and Ford, huh? Thank you for showing us your true colors and knowledge....or lack of rather.
Wasn't you the guy who is 90% composer and only 10% sound designer? But tell ME Loom is in the same league as Harmor? ;)
quantum7 wrote:I realize that you are most likely very young
Producing since 1988 = very young? ;) No, i'm pro and have enough experience.
quantum7 wrote:.. but if you want your sample pack business to thrive, you may want to avoid acting the way you are on this thread. Very unprofessional. I'm really trying to help you.
Lol, you tell me what to do and how to act? It's my opinion and i don't care if some potential customers like it or not.

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quantum7 wrote:Loom will soon have a playable demo available for those of us lowly people who like "Fords".
Please start a spam thread for Ford "Loom" then...

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Wildfunk wrote:
Tricky-Loops wrote:Seriously, Serum (for example) is quite tempting but it's not an additive synth, of course.
I can load wavetables into Harmor too ;)
I've just seen these [wavetables], do they sound good?

https://www.jrrshop.com/image-line-harm ... e-download

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Wildfunk- You claim to be knowledgeable with the topic on this thread, and I'm guessing you may be, but when your science is, "Harmor is a Porsche and Loom is a Ford", you knowledge on the matter becomes highly questionable. If you are in your mid 40's as I am, and can't understand that..... then :dog:
Wildfunk wrote:
i don't care if some potential customers like it or not.
Really???? :? Wow!!! Well then, I'm glad that you don't have to feed your family with your business then. Do you see any other sample developers like yourself acting out? Again, just trying to help you.

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Tricky-Loops wrote:I've just seen these [wavetables], do they sound good?
Why don't you build your own ones? ;) Dragging single-cycles into the IMG area while holding control...
quantum7 wrote:Wildfunk- You claim to be knowledgeable with the topic on this thread, and I'm guessing you may be, but when your science is, "Harmor is a Porsche and Loom is a Ford", you knowledge on the matter becomes highly questionable.
Feel free to explain us why Loom should be in the same league as Harmor (or even better).

Without the editing of the timbres it's just a toy. Using premade waveforms and "trial and error" to achieve your goal sound (maybe)...

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Wildfunk wrote:
quantum7 wrote:Loom will soon have a playable demo available for those of us lowly people who like "Fords".
Please start a spam thread for Ford "Loom" then...
Loom is capable of resynthesis, and is suitable for experimental and drones sounds, thus fitting the criteria of the OP, so there's no obvious reason to start another thread to discuss it.
If you suspect this thread has inappropriate posts, please contact a moderator, but otherwise, in the absence of something official, would you mind not pretending you have some sort of say in what other people are allowed to discuss here.
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Wildfunk wrote:Feel free to explain us why Loom should be in the same league as Harmor (or even better).
The criteria of this thread is resynthesis for experimental and drone sounds. Loom meets those criteria. There's no further explanation needed by anyone to justify their decision to include it in the discussion, and you're not the arbiter of what may be discussed here.
An idiot on Set Theory:
"In some cases there is an object called red that contains everything that is red. In much the same way a pot is a plate."

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quantum7 wrote:Do you see any other sample developers like yourself acting out?
So as a sample developer i should shut up on topics like this?

Or post at least under anonymous aliases?

And don't critize any plugins?

And always be friendly to all users just to avoid scaring potential customers away?

No!
quantum7 wrote:Again, just trying to help you.
No you don't. You are just here to defend your poor Ford (and still don't understand why it isn't a Porsche and never will be).

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whyterabbyt wrote:
Wildfunk wrote:Feel free to explain us why Loom should be in the same league as Harmor (or even better).
The criteria of this thread is resynthesis for experimental and drone sounds. Loom meets those criteria. There's no further explanation needed by anyone to justify their decision to include it in the discussion, and you're not the arbiter of what may be discussed here.
Let's all pray that Wildfunk doesn't become a moderator one day. :scared:

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whyterabbyt wrote:The criteria of this thread is resynthesis for experimental and drone sounds. Loom meets those criteria. There's no further explanation needed by anyone to justify their decision to include it in the discussion, and you're not the arbiter of what may be discussed here.
Ok! Maybe drones are better on Loom ;) I wrote in the first posts that Harmor is abused by drones, pads, wobbles and experimental stuff. It's sad... and now i will leaving this thread :hug:

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@ Wildfunk

If you live in the biggest city of Mittelfranken, why do you need a Porsche? :P Or let's put it this way: A good composer can make good songs with everything, even with Synth1 or Oatmeal...

From what I see, Loom is completely different to Harmor, it has more a modular approach. Harmor seems to have much more features but that doesn't mean that you cannot make good compositions with Loom... :shrug:

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Wildfunk wrote:
quantum7 wrote:Do you see any other sample developers like yourself acting out?
So as a sample developer i should shut up on topics like this?

Or post at least under anonymous aliases?

And don't critize any plugins?

And always be friendly to all users just to avoid scaring potential customers away?

No!
quantum7 wrote:Again, just trying to help you.
No you don't. You are just here to defend your poor Ford (and still don't understand why it isn't a Porsche and never will be).
:( I would have loved for you to enlighten us with your supposed knowledge on the matter, but instead all you have for all of us who are interested is, "Porsche and Ford". :dog:
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Tricky-Loops wrote:@ Wildfunk

If you live in the biggest city of Mittelfranken, why do you need a Porsche? :P Or let's put it this way: A good composer can make good songs with everything, even with Synth1 or Oatmeal...

From what I see, Loom is completely different to Harmor, it has more a modular approach. Harmor seems to have much more features but that doesn't mean that you cannot make good compositions with Loom... :shrug:
I would just give up with Wildfunk. All he has to offer us apparently is, "Harmor is a Porsche and Loom is a Ford". Very sad, because I would have liked to actually learned something more about both Harmor and Loom. Maybe we should start another thread and encourage people to actually contribute something helpful on the matter? :shrug:
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quantum7 wrote: instead all you have for all of us who are interested is, "Porsche and Ford". :dog:
Of course a VW Beetle is technically a Porsche and an AC Cobra is a Ford, so the comparison was as ill-considered as the logic of trying to prevent any discussion of using anything except Harmor for a purpose he was opposed to using Harmor for.
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