Poly-Ana: Coming soon from Admiral Quality.

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Teksonik wrote:Makes sense. I was just confused by your earlier post, sounded like the plugin needed internet access. No problem with your CP scheme, I have several plugins that work the same way. Takes a few more minutes to register but the benefit of not having my DAW hooked up to the internet is well worth the extra steps. :D
Yep! I'd never make it work that way for exactly that reason (even though it would save people all the "effort" of having to copy the serial number to their clipboard to paste it into the web form :lol: )

Cheers.

EDIT: Actually! You know, there's no reason it couldn't do both. You can copy the SN out of the product and enter it manually on the website, OR, just click a "Buy Now" button and it launches a browser to the site automatically with the SN already filled in the form. Gotta add that...

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Another clip for you... (consider it a peace offering :lol: )

Anybody ever used a Roland JX-3P? It was my first polyphonic synthesizer, got it in exchange for painting my parents' house in when I was in high-school, back in 1983. :cool:

Anyway, it's a great synth, my original was broken by a friend and I just bought another one this year to replace it. It didn't have very good presets (what synth did back then?) But one of the better presets was called "PLANET". A nice square waves though inverted filter envelope with lots of resonance kind of sound. Just for kicks, and to compare to a real thing, I duplicated the patch in Poly-Ana. (Sans chorus effect.)

http://www.admiralquality.com/mp3/Poly- ... p3?kvrpacs

No, its not the most complex sound ever, but a good preview of the sound of the filter (and that's just one filter there.. other one is unused in this patch).

Same deal as the other demos... just noodling (and slightly ripping off The Cars "It's Magic" intro, which was always something I liked to play with the Planet sound) so, not a real performance, forgive me.

There'll be more...
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Don't sweat it. No hard feelings. I look forward to trying the synth. You've got a lot of eyes on you, which is promising.

I don't blame you for being skeptical and a bit cynical of us, wondering if we'll really buy. Even guys that write freebies get mad around here. Remember the guy that wrote Vivaldi MX? It's a bit of a thankless job. People download and forget.

I think it'll go a lot better once a demo is released. Right now it's all just a bunch of waiting and talk.

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mistertoast wrote: People download and forget.
You got that right ;) -- Even now, months after the latest release, there are still 30-40 downloads a day for NuBi LE / Spinner LE ...

Donations? Three in the last four months.

IMHO, AQ is completely justified in his desire to see that his hard work is recognized and rewarded

peace,
pj

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pj geerlings wrote:
mistertoast wrote: People download and forget.
You got that right ;) -- Even now, months after the latest release, there are still 30-40 downloads a day for NuBi LE / Spinner LE ...

Donations? Three in the last four months.

IMHO, AQ is completely justified in his desire to see that his hard work is recognized and rewarded

peace,
pj
PJ! I was wondering what happened to you. I saw your Phaser and Spinner in the Japanese DTM magazine that I asked them to send me a copy (and they DID! What sweethearts!) There's a few other KVR characters in that issue as well, though I assume you all know, as they did contact me to ask permission to include my software on their DVD-ROM. "Are you big in Japan?"

Anyway, missed you. And... look, I don't actually care about recognition or rewards (I can't pay the rent or feed myself with those!) I'm in this because I think I've made a product that's worth a small, reasonable amount of MONEY. (I'd pay money for yours too though PJ!) I WOULD do this just for fun and give it away for free, but as I've told you already offline, I have taken the last year of my life "off" to make this. If someone doesn't like it, that's FINE, it's not for everyone. But I'm literally BEGGING you all, please, when the inevitable crack comes out, please don't use it.

Thanks PJ. I was wondering where you were. I don't know if I just missed your posts, or if you've actually been "gone". But I'm glad you're still out there! :)

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AQ - I'm still alive and well ;)

I just thought you might need a little back-up in this thread 8)

peace,
pj

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Awwwwwwwww, don't worry. I can take 'em. :box:

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I was going to interject in this thread, as I thought you came across a bit harsh AQ - but I didn't, decided just to read & follow it.
Anyways I tried your filter, which was very good & i'm sure this synth will be the same, likely not my cup of tea - but I hope that you do well with it & it gets plenty of recognition & accolades.
To any detractors all I can say is it is damn obvious that this thing is a total labour of love for AQ, you can tell by carefully reading his replies - he virtually gushes & this is why he likely comes across a little strong at times, but this is also likley why this product will be a very high quality one for people looking for these sounds.
Good luck AQ :D

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Excuse me, I didn't get an answer via eMail from AdmiralQuality yet, so I want to refresh that. But to make things short:

I'm curious... The vintage design, etc. Is this VSTi a rebuilt of some existing hardware instrument or just inspired by the look of old analog/modular instruments?
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Thanks diverdee. Like I said, I'm not in this to try to please everybody. But I'm trying to please myself, and those who like similar things will be VERY pleased as well. (And this hopefully won't be my last product, so if this isn't exactly what someone wants... just wait... more things will come! :) )
Compyfox wrote:Excuse me, I didn't get an answer via eMail from AdmiralQuality yet, so I want to refresh that. But to make things short:

I'm curious... The vintage design, etc. Is this VSTi a rebuilt of some existing hardware instrument or just inspired by the look of old analog/modular instruments?
Got your email Compy, just been too busy to reply yet (but I will). But I answered this question already, above.
http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... 91#2071091


It's not inspired by the LOOK of old analog/modular instruments. It's inspired by the SOUND and FEATURES. My rule in designing was: don't do anything they couldn't have done with analog electronics in 1976.

:)

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Heh, it's okay. Now you answered it at least three time. ;)
Just thought because of the look and the "advertising" it was some kind of rebuilt.

Even though it isn't, I'm fairly sure a lot of people will appreciate your work and use it among a Moog Simulaiton - maybe even ditch it. Who knows.

Thanks for answering.
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Here's some more demo clips for you. Poly-Ana is somewhat unique in that it's oscillators have waveform selectors that vary continuously between the different shapes. For Square to Sine to Triangle, these are just simple crossfades. But in Triangle to Saw to Square, the waveform actually morphs. Different from what you'd get from a simple crossfade. Probably the most interesting range is from Tri to Saw, sounds VERY brassy when modulated. And I find the range between saw and square to be good for creating clipped saw waves, good for simulating overdrive before the filter. Aside from moving the knob manually, the waveshape can also be modulated from any of the modulation sources, I call this "WFM" for "waveform mod".

Another rare feature is that ANY of the wave shapes can be pulse width modulated. We've all heard pulse width modulated square waves, but even the sine wave becomes VERY interesting when PWM is applied! (And curiously enough, PWM doesn't sound very interesting at all on the sawtooth wave! :shrug:)

So, these three clips here each use just ONE of the three oscillators, and incorporate NO filtering (filter is wide open and unmodulated). But they SOUND filtered because of the varying waveshapes.

Here's WFM and PWM at the same time, both running from the same envelope (this clip sounds kind of nasty in parts, that's just the MP3 encoding, it sounds far cleaner before the encoding):
http://www.admiralquality.com/mp3/Poly- ... p3?kvrpacs
Look at that one under an oscilloscope and you'll get a good idea of the many waveshapes Poly's oscillators are cabable of producing.

A sine wave under PWM. Brassy, eh?
http://www.admiralquality.com/mp3/Poly- ... p3?kvrpacs

WFM morphing a triangle wave into a sawtooth. Will also be a good technique for brass:
http://www.admiralquality.com/mp3/Poly- ... p3?kvrpacs

Note that these clips are all intentionally dry sounding, as I'm just trying to demo the oscillator in isolation. But the point is, this is what she can do WITHOUT any filters, and with only one of her three oscillators running. :D

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Nifty.

What is your method of morphing when you aren't crossfading?

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mistertoast wrote:Nifty.

What is your method of morphing when you aren't crossfading?
Just look at the interface, you'll see drawings of the wave shapes in between the 4 primaries. In triangle to saw one side of the ramp gets steeper approacing vertical while the other gets longer, until the triangle becomes a sawtooth shape. In saw to square it's much like what you'd see if you added gain and clipped a sawtooth wave. (And surprisingly, it sounds very much like a sawtooth almost all the way up to square, just gets a little "beefier" sounding, then relatively quickly turns squarish sounding near the end of that range.)

The waveform knob freewheels round and round as well! As does its modulation. At full setting of the WFM amount knob, you can make it go all the way around several times. Not an effect that will come up much, but still interesting. (And that's what you're hearing in the WFM and PWM demo MP3... it cycles around all the waveforms several times, while the pulse width goes from 50% to narrow, and back to 50%).

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Interesting. So you've created a continuum of waveforms that wraps around.

What I was wondering, though, is the algorithm you used to generate the intermediate shapes.

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