Is there still such a thing like instrumentalist snobbery around?

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Is there still such a thing like instrumentalist snobbery around? 2018-07-29T18:47:52+00:00 Hi (TLDR? Just answer the question in the title as you understand it ad hoc) I was among the first electronic musicians rising in the light of synth-pop, krautrock, industrial (EBM) etc. that entered professional music schools in my small country in the late 1980s. At my school, I was actually the only electronic musician among 80 Debussy, Miles Davis, Coltrane or Chick Corea wannebees. I was sneezed at because at that time there was a huge gab between electronica and so called "real music". To be a "real musician" you had to be some degree of excellent on some instrument; electric or classical guitar, trumpet, saxophone, upright bass, piano or keyboard. I was none of the above. What I went to music school for was to learn to compose the music I wanted to compose, to control notes, to arrange, to harmonize, to master different styles. Sequencers and synths helped me to do just that. I remember that nobody took me seriously at all but a friendly sax player. I was but a fake musician all the way through. And it did not help that I made the highest grades in composition exercises such as jazz harmonization and counterpoint. That made me even more pathetic, using my skills on stupid electronic music instead of real live music. However, the contempt could be mutual because on my side, I considered many of those "instrumentalists" nothing but self-obsessed masturbationists who turned their instruments into penis enlargements and litterally acted as if anyone else in a group was nothing but personal backing to their oh-so-fast-played improvisations. In my eyes, they lacked sense of wholeness, respect for other musical functions than their own, took composers for granted (all good music are already in "The Real Book" and the rest is derivation) and generally lacked sense of musical structure and order. As if playing as-wierd-as-possible scales in amazing tempi during improvisations was the real core of music. We didn't talk much. But these days I take it for granted that we have long passed this former division, now that everyone, may they be composer or instrumentalists, have access to cheap DAWS and easily can make their own home studios and compositions. But then again, I am not really sure. One characteristic of many instrumentalists on my school was that they actually hated music theory and composition class and most of all wished they could survive the whole study by using their ears and improvise. So now I ask you, do you have any experience in this regard? are there still instrumentalist snobs around or have they become extinct? Plz write about your take on it and enlighten me on the issue in modern times. Thanks in advance IncarnateX https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=199263

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There is snobbery in every community.
Also in this one. Like plug-in and developer snobbery

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Charming. My performance wouldn't reach the socks she isn't wearing if I had to rely on spoons during a permanent power down scenario.

Don't think we have such environments like the one she is from in Denmark, but now a days we are getting closer, unfortunately.

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