SUNO is killer!

[ghettosynth]

I think that what I see here is that there is so much ego invested in a manual mechanism that it invents a moral defensive posture.

I don't invest a lot of my ego in making music, if any. It's possibly the least ego involved work I do ever. Music is a hobby to me.

The process is the point in the same way that the process is the point in hiking or having a drink with mates. I would certainly not outsource the process of drinking just to get to the hangover faster.
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You absolutely do outsource the process. You use plugins, you use a DAW. I assume that you didn't write your own. I understand that your process is your process. My processes are my processes. I build my own instruments. So do many people here. That's part of the process for me and something that I don't outsource when I want to exercise that process. Again, this is your ego. You are in denial, you want to judge others because you think that your process is morally superior. For anything that you do, someone else can judge you in the same way for what you don't do. Elevate your thinking and see that process have some degree of reward to some person, even if it doesn't for you.

I can even understand that part of the "Suno motive", but it's still missing out on the most fun part of the whole endeavor, which is the part I can't understand.

For you, it's missing out on the part that you think is most fun. If you don't make your own instruments, with a soldering iron, then you're missing out on the most fun part from my perspective. If you don't design them yourself, from raw components, then you're missing out on more fun. I'm sure someone can tell me that if I don't build my own vacuum tubes, then I'm missing out on some fun.

Here, this is what some people think is fun.



I bet he buys the raw materials and tools to build his vacuum tubes, maybe he's missing out on some fun?

People like to have an idea and to turn that idea into music. I think that SUNO has fantastic applications, but, I don't think that people trying to become SUNO stars is it. I think that where it really shines is that people can make music that wouldn't have been made otherwise and they can make it for the moment.

I think that this does threaten people here. It threatens your Bandcamp output. Not because it's better, per se, but because it frees people who have ideas from needing others to express them. So, by threaten, I mean that it does shrink the market for your music and everyone else on bandcamp and the like.

[gearwatcher]

Yawn. More of the goat herding nonsense.

It does not matter what part of the process you find fun. The point is that with "prompt to track" there is absolutely no process left at all. No room for creative expression in any way. It's just a brief -> [black box] -> product.

Whatever part of what the "black box" supplanted you presonally found enteraining and engaging, it's completely gone in the "prompt to track" paradigm, irrespective of whatever it was.