Live 5 beta

[WillieJenkins]

Anyone having any problems with recording while using the arpeggiator?

I just downloaded the beta, after having poked around with the Project 5 demo and loving the arp they included. To my surprise, there was a very nice arp in Live too. I recorded a synth part and had no problem, but I then loaded up a Simpler and dropped in a kick, as well as high hat samples. I set the arp to 1/8 so as to get a 4/4 kick with an offset hat. I hit record and held down the corresponding keys, but it didn't seem to want to play right, and even though it showed the two notes held down for the duration of the midi clip....it didn't trigger the drum samples. Also at this point, the samples would no longer respond to my keyboard either. I had to actually delete and reload another Simpler to get it to respond again. I am not that familiar with Live, so maybe there's something I'm missing....but how intuitive a program is usually determines whether or not I'll use it. For what it's worth, I found Project 5 VERY intuitive...being a longtime Sonar user and all...but I have some issues with that program as well. I'm basically looking for a more "inspired" program that I can have fun "playing"...and it's between Live and Project 5.

if you find P5 very intuitive, you may not find Live that intuitive, because I've been using Sonar since version 1.0, and P5 makes no sense to me.

Live on the otherhand is the perfect Sonar complement, and was as intuitive to me as Sonar was.

[WillieJenkins]

Oh, and another thing, is there any way to get Live to search my entire drive for VSTs....I'm a sloppy bastard who didn't install them all in the same folder from the beginning. If so, I find this retarded, as I have no problem like this in Sonar or even Project 5.

I don't think there is. I think thats a downfall to non-VST adapter based hosts?

[headquest]

Oh, and another thing, is there any way to get Live to search my entire drive for VSTs....I'm a sloppy bastard who didn't install them all in the same folder from the beginning. If so, I find this retarded, as I have no problem like this in Sonar or even Project 5.

I don't think there is. I think thats a downfall to non-VST adapter based hosts?

It's not quite that specific

I believe that some VST hosts will scan multiple filepaths/folders if you tell them where to look. Tracktion certainly does this.

Ableton Live however only allows for one folder. This is not exactly a problem...

1) if Live is your main host, simply setup a folder C:\VST folder.

2) if not, tell Live to look in your (e.g.) Steinberg folder, or wherever.

Multiple file path searching is a good thing of course, and maybe a little feature request for Live 6 perhaps

[z15]

maybe live would work with aliases/symlinks? i used to get past emagic exs24's "all samples are searched for in the same directory"-idea with that trick.

ie. make a dir C:\VST and add a link there for each plugin path you have. (make a link to plugin folder from the right click context menu in windows file explorer, copy/drag it to the C:\VST\ -dir)

if it works like that then there's not much reason for multiple path searching IMO. maybe someone's willing to try it?

[davy]

If you want live to search in multiple folders, you can (in Live 5) add a shortcut to the folder in the directory you mentioned to Live 5 as your VST folder.

[headquest]

Cool

[z15]

hehe that was fast. davy, thanks for confirming.

cynicalsmile, the arpeggiator works just like the way you described here. i press down the right keys and i get a pattern. just tested it with impulse to make sure.

this may sound stupid, but are you sure the keys were the right ones, ie. you didn't engage octave shift or anything like that by accident in your kb?

[CynicalSmile]

If you want live to search in multiple folders, you can (in Live 5) add a shortcut to the folder in the directory you mentioned to Live 5 as your VST folder.

Doh!, if that works (which I'm assuming it does... since you posted) that would be fantastic! I didn't want to have to move all my plugs to a single folder, because I heard there could be problems with moving a plug's DLL out of it's original install location (and I don't want to reinstall a bunch of stuff)...could be wrong though.

cynicalsmile, the arpeggiator works just like the way you described here. i press down the right keys and i get a pattern. just tested it with impulse to make sure.

this may sound stupid, but are you sure the keys were the right ones, ie. you didn't engage octave shift or anything like that by accident in your kb?

Positive the keys were the right ones, as the sample names were listed right next to the corresponding notes in the piano roll. I had no problem "playing" it, this arose when recording came into the picture.

[z15]

Positive the keys were the right ones, as the sample names were listed right next to the corresponding notes in the piano roll. I had no problem "playing" it, this arose when recording came into the picture.

okay - i managed to record and play it back with no problems myself. i'm on mac osx but i don't see any reason why it wouldn't work on windows too. have you tried doing the same thing again? maybe you accidentally soloed an empty slot in impulse, deactivated the whole device or something? hard to say.

[headquest]

It wold be worth doing a search on the beta5 forum to check if anyone else experienced any problems like those you mentiuon CynicalSmile.

[soma]

Is there a way to make Live not rescan my VST folder each time I startup Live? I have made a bunch of VSTs and it takes a while as some are kind of broken.

[CynicalSmile]

It wold be worth doing a search on the beta5 forum to check if anyone else experienced any problems like those you mentiuon CynicalSmile.

I glanced through all the recent posts, and nothing of the sort popped out at me. I will try to duplicate this later using the exact same synth plug (despite the fact that it worked fine) and selections from the same sample library for the drums. The only minor difference I can recall between the successful synth recording and the unsuccessful Simpler drum recording was the fact that I used the hold function on the synth recording so I could pull off the chord progressions easier. I just held down the keys manually for the drums...hmm, I may have to test this.

[CynicalSmile]

Damn it, correction: I believe it was Impulse, not Simpler that I was using for the drums.

[headquest]

Beta over... Live 5 is now released

Time to get that upgrade bundle with Operator too, I reckon

[braj]

Downloading mine right now!