KVR Audio

el-bo (formerly ebow) · Sun Jan 18, 2015 1:20 pm

ChamomileShark wrote:I think I may have a talking stick here somewhere.

T-CM11 · Post by **T-CM11** » Sun Jan 18, 2015 1:22 pm

Sampleconstruct wrote:I am now organizing an encounter group for Alchemists, we meet once a week, each meeting begins with the inevitable "Hi, I'm "..." and I can not get over it", then we delete 666 Alchemy AU plug-ins on 666 Macbook Pros simultaneously, and then morph into each other while dancing around in circles holding hands. It helps...

So sad... I remember when we were still making gold from lead.

Trahast · Post by **Trahast** » Sun Jan 18, 2015 1:30 pm

Got nothing. Just, you know, doing my bit towards 200.

Cheers,
Trahast

mhog · Post by **mhog** » Sun Jan 18, 2015 2:15 pm

T-CM11 wrote:
mhog wrote:I did not tell "you cannot use it", infact I confirm one can play it even in 2023 and beyond. But I can see well how all discontinued software products become "obsolete" very soon. That is the main reason why so many people are going to sell their copy of Alchemy now: they know well in a year or two nobody want to buy it. The same for the above mentioned products (Intakt, B4, Peak etc.). These discontinued synths (and software in general) never become "vintage" (as in "hardware vintage": moog, roland etc.). On the contrary, they lose value (usually becoming free in a year or two). This has nothing to do with sound quality, of course. I guess it has more to do with "out of fashion" outdated GUI, lack of support in case of issues, possible incompatibilities when new OS come out... etc.
Anyone care to post that "huge" list of unsupported plugins that became free in a year or two (or more)?

Yes, this was a rhetorical question.

Not that huge, but products such as rebirth, plex, firebird etc. By the way, one would not buy discontinued software for more than 10% of its full price. So, they usually become "free" in the second hand market (example: "sell this, add this for free").

mutantdog · Post by **mutantdog** » Sun Jan 18, 2015 3:14 pm

mhog wrote:Not that huge, but products such as rebirth, plex, firebird etc. By the way, one would not buy discontinued software for more than 10% of its full price. So, they usually become "free" in the second hand market (example: "sell this, add this for free").

On the other hand though, one could argue that the scarcity of a discontinued product increases its value. Albino3 for example still holds its price when it occasionally pops up on the marketplace.

Ameyah Audio · Post by **Ameyah Audio** » Sun Jan 18, 2015 3:24 pm

mutantdog wrote:
mhog wrote:Not that huge, but products such as rebirth, plex, firebird etc. By the way, one would not buy discontinued software for more than 10% of its full price. So, they usually become "free" in the second hand market (example: "sell this, add this for free").
On the other hand though, one could argue that the scarcity of a discontinued product increases its value. Albino3 for example still holds its price when it occasionally pops up on the marketplace.

Albino 3

well its one of the best - IF not the best ambient synths out there, i was gutted as i was reading it will be discontinued. i still like the way how you can make pads with it, well i never owned it, just had some plays with it in the past.
i think Alchemy could be on the same spot, it has similar quality and i dont think users will stop throwing it in the daw as pad machine.

thought we already made the 200 pages ...

trimph1 · Post by **trimph1** » Sun Jan 18, 2015 3:29 pm

dnekm wrote:I still use Atmosphere when I make music.... It is not obsolete. Spectrasonics may like you to believe that, however....

Sorry to go off topic, but the point is this - it will still work for you, so lack of support or re-sale value does not come into the equation here. As long as Alchemy loads and works, it will be a treasured instrument.

It always amazes me when I hear that x instrument is obsolete. I always start looking for an expiry date.

trimph1 · Post by **trimph1** » Sun Jan 18, 2015 3:31 pm

Sampleconstruct wrote:Let's all get over this soon, software nostalgia seems.....ridiculous.

You leave my Bars and Pipes aaaalllloooooone!!!!!!

thecontrolcentre · Post by **thecontrolcentre** » Sun Jan 18, 2015 3:32 pm

If it's true then would explain a lot ...

Ameyah Audio · Post by **Ameyah Audio** » Sun Jan 18, 2015 3:36 pm

why not put this in the other big topic?

Ameyah Audio · Post by **Ameyah Audio** » Sun Jan 18, 2015 3:38 pm

trimph1 wrote:
dnekm wrote:I still use Atmosphere when I make music.... It is not obsolete. Spectrasonics may like you to believe that, however....

Sorry to go off topic, but the point is this - it will still work for you, so lack of support or re-sale value does not come into the equation here. As long as Alchemy loads and works, it will be a treasured instrument.
It always amazes me when I hear that x instrument is obsolete. I always start looking for an expiry date.

atmosphere is anyway part of omnisphere. agree i made a whole song out of the default sine wave in atmosphere, i liked the dream synth a lot.
maybe omnisphere 2 with alchemy 2 engine? omnisphere lacks a really good audio input.

mpreed · Post by **mpreed** » Sun Jan 18, 2015 3:58 pm

H-man wrote:Maybe there are some clues here?

https://uk.linkedin.com/pub/ben-gillett/1/789/89b

Perhaps someone could try to link-up with this guy? I could do it, it's just, I don't want to.

Any Macrumors reader will know that often the first confirmation that a company has been taken over by Apple is that their Linkedin update changes to their new employer. No sign of this happening yet for any of the Camel crew. Although I did find out that Ben G is two degrees of separation away from me in Linkedin. I feel that we are almost brothers.

I've mentioned before that Apple PR have two stock phrases to confirm or deny if they have bought a company when asked (and those phrases ain't "yes" and "no"!).

I sent a mail to Macrumors pointing them to this thread and the circumstantial "evidence" and rumours that point to a Cupertino takeover and asking them to get in touch with Apple PR to confirm or deny, but didn't get a reply. Maybe my mistake was pointing them to this thread ...

trimph1 · Post by **trimph1** » Sun Jan 18, 2015 4:02 pm

Cupertino is wise on this. Keep it on the D-low.

patchhunter · Post by **patchhunter** » Sun Jan 18, 2015 4:04 pm

In the latest video from sonic state, the host mentioned that he was contacted by Apple and they said that they will not be exhibiting at namm but they will have a logic briefing. Not sure if this was mentioned earlier in the thread.

If that briefing contains any info related to alchemy or redmatica, this will be very exciting for users of logic.

trimph1 · Post by **trimph1** » Sun Jan 18, 2015 4:30 pm

Not good news for PC users though.

Camel Audio ceasing sales? [Update: CA acquired by Apple]