Vengeance Producer Suite - AVENGER - 1.8.5 the main thread

[Coockie1176ln]

there is an UNDO
there is a REDO
there is an Undo History

Now with the update 1.0.27, I finally have found some real time to start editing the synth, and i must say again:
WAW
Thank you Manuel and Rene, what a joyful synth you created !!!
Lot's of respect for what you've done with the functions, the GUI and the wonderful presets !

worth every penny of investment in this synth for me now after update of 1.0.27 one of the best synth ever , Complex synth but very good organized
i use it now with logic pro x

thanks to Manuel and Rene nice work

everybody gets worked up over 1.0.27? why? sure i loved the visual feedback on eq that we have been asking and its almost unrealistic that they added that feature, almost groundbreaking having that in a vsti. But what did it turn into the best synth ever with 1.0.27, what was added that in your opnion made it that and your godly? Was my favorite before that...

[lavizh]

everybody gets worked up over 1.0.27? why? sure i loved the visual feedback on eq that we have been asking and its almost unrealistic that they added that feature, almost groundbreaking having that in a vsti. But what did it turn into the best synth ever with 1.0.27, what was added that in your opnion made it that and your godly? Was my favorite before that...

The other fixes in 1.0.27 perhaps? It's a nice patch, works very well here.

[godly]

there is an UNDO
there is a REDO
there is an Undo History

Now with the update 1.0.27, I finally have found some real time to start editing the synth, and i must say again:
WAW
Thank you Manuel and Rene, what a joyful synth you created !!!
Lot's of respect for what you've done with the functions, the GUI and the wonderful presets !

worth every penny of investment in this synth for me now after update of 1.0.27 one of the best synth ever , Complex synth but very good organized
i use it now with logic pro x

thanks to Manuel and Rene nice work

everybody gets worked up over 1.0.27? why? sure i loved the visual feedback on eq that we have been asking and its almost unrealistic that they added that feature, almost groundbreaking having that in a vsti. But what did it turn into the best synth ever with 1.0.27, what was added that in your opnion made it that and your godly? Was my favorite before that...

It's not perfect but at least some bugs are solved, now I can start using it.
Still, lots of gui and font problems, but I'm sure that will be fixed in time.
And trust me this is a great sounding Synth.

[exmatproton]

everybody gets worked up over 1.0.27? why? sure i loved the visual feedback on eq that we have been asking and its almost unrealistic that they added that feature, almost groundbreaking having that in a vsti. But what did it turn into the best synth ever with 1.0.27, what was added that in your opnion made it that and your godly? Was my favorite before that...

The other fixes in 1.0.27 perhaps? It's a nice patch, works very well here.

I agree. Look at all the previous patches + the last one. All together they make this synth a good, stable and complete product. When it was released it had it's niggles and some functions weren't properly (not enough at least) implemented. Most of that is fixed.

[Coockie1176ln]

there is an UNDO
there is a REDO
there is an Undo History

Now with the update 1.0.27, I finally have found some real time to start editing the synth, and i must say again:
WAW
Thank you Manuel and Rene, what a joyful synth you created !!!
Lot's of respect for what you've done with the functions, the GUI and the wonderful presets !

worth every penny of investment in this synth for me now after update of 1.0.27 one of the best synth ever , Complex synth but very good organized
i use it now with logic pro x

thanks to Manuel and Rene nice work

everybody gets worked up over 1.0.27? why? sure i loved the visual feedback on eq that we have been asking and its almost unrealistic that they added that feature, almost groundbreaking having that in a vsti. But what did it turn into the best synth ever with 1.0.27, what was added that in your opnion made it that and your godly? Was my favorite before that...

It's not perfect but at least some bugs are solved, now I can start using it.
Still, lots of gui and font problems, but I'm sure that will be fixed in time.
And trust me this is a great sounding Synth.

I dont thin its the fonts that are to big of an issue. Might be something that the synth is optimised for 2k and 4k displays and it downscales for hd content when scaling it down making the quality blurry. https://i.ytimg.com/vi/QyioGSmZjeo/maxresdefault.jpg
Also read about tv with 4k that was blurry something caused by "from 4:4:4 color to 4:2:0. Text becomes harder to read etc." http://www.avsforum.com/forum/166-lcd-f ... ormal.html
Something atleast with it i think is whats causing this mess. Only thing i am waiting for now is a fix for that. But i think downscaling a higher resolution content is the issue for us with hd displays. I tested upscale resolution the resolution to 2560x1440 my screen so it downscaled everything and text in browser on hd display and stuff suddenly got blurry, i am in my browser. Might be something looks the same as avenger issue.

Also cpu could be better, dune 2 that use over 500 oscillators per note use way less cpu with 500 oscillators than avenger do with 100 oscillators running. So there is things things still in cpu that could be improved. but its my favorite synth and still needs this main issues fixed

[Coockie1176ln]

everybody gets worked up over 1.0.27? why? sure i loved the visual feedback on eq that we have been asking and its almost unrealistic that they added that feature, almost groundbreaking having that in a vsti. But what did it turn into the best synth ever with 1.0.27, what was added that in your opnion made it that and your godly? Was my favorite before that...

The other fixes in 1.0.27 perhaps? It's a nice patch, works very well here.

I agree. Look at all the previous patches + the last one. All together they make this synth a good, stable and complete product. When it was released it had it's niggles and some functions weren't properly (not enough at least) implemented. Most of that is fixed.

I agree it has come a long way quick But to me it wasnt 1.0.27 exactly that made it best. I think its all updates all together

[Razzia]

I think 1.0.27 came out like, a day or two after I bought it. So that's the only Avenger I've ever known. I have to agree with everyone fawning over avenger though. It's a magnificent synth. Maybe the best synth I've ever used. In addition to being ridiculously capable, it's just so damn easy to use. The whole UI just works together in such an ergonomic, stress free environment.

[mholloway]

love this synth and don't wanna sound negative, but am I the only one who finds editing in the Drum Seq to be a real pain? I love the depth of functionality (e.g. all the per-note controls like pan, reverse, and ESPECIALLY the knob that lets you choose where on the wave the beat timing occurs) but I really dislike having to constantly click those two buttons at the bottom to alternate between Drawing and Selecting; this feels VERY cumbersome and work-flow killing, is there a short cut I'm missing ??

Also, the velocity lane seems worthless to me, since it shows all notes at all times, which means they just overlap each other and there's nothing you can do there without going up and clicking specific notes, in which case, why show the overlapping mess in the first place? If you could select a specific drum hit, then it could show velocity only for that drum hit across the sequence, which would make sense; but in this current form, there's just endless overlapping velocity data so I never end up touching any of it, and rather just edit notes individually with selection / velocity dial, which means the whole lane is basically useless noise. I'd prefer to be able to easily edit / draw down there, showing one 'sample lane' at a time.

just some thoughts! With a few tweaks it could be a fantastic drum seq!

-Michael

[godly]

Hi Michael,
Maybe you could send this suggestion to Rene the developer, because I'm not sure he's reading this page.
Many people did other suggestions, including me, but i don't see any of it implemented.
Of course, i think it's still in debugging phase probably.

[mholloway]

Hi Michael,
Maybe you could send this suggestion to Rene the developer, because I'm not sure he's reading this page.
Many people did other suggestions, including me, but i don't see any of it implemented.
Of course, i think it's still in debugging phase probably.

Any advice on the best way to contact him? I only see a support e-mail on the Vengeance / Avenger page. Thanks!

[wagtunes]

Hi Michael,
Maybe you could send this suggestion to Rene the developer, because I'm not sure he's reading this page.
Many people did other suggestions, including me, but i don't see any of it implemented.
Of course, i think it's still in debugging phase probably.

Any advice on the best way to contact him? I only see a support e-mail on the Vengeance / Avenger page. Thanks!

Check your PM.

[woodsdenis]

Hi Michael,
Maybe you could send this suggestion to Rene the developer, because I'm not sure he's reading this page.
Many people did other suggestions, including me, but i don't see any of it implemented.
Of course, i think it's still in debugging phase probably.

Any advice on the best way to contact him? I only see a support e-mail on the Vengeance / Avenger page. Thanks!

keilwerth (AT) vengeance-sound.com

[msvs]

but I really dislike having to constantly click those two buttons at the bottom to alternate between Drawing and Selecting; this feels VERY cumbersome and work-flow killing, is there a short cut I'm missing ??

yes... you missed, that you just can hold the SHIFT key to switch between the modes Makes things A LOT easier. As long as you hold the SHIFT Key you are in the "draw select box" mode

Also, the velocity lane seems worthless to me, since it shows all notes at all times, which means they just overlap each other and there's nothing you can do there without going up and clicking specific notes,

the "draw select box" mode comes in here again. Just hold SHIFT, select all Notes you want to edit the velocity, and only those are highlightet now. You can draw now the Velocity of only these notes without affecting all the others. Or you could use CURSOR UP / CURSOR DOWN to alter the Velocity up and down with keeping their relativity to each other. Thats all explained in the manual btw

[Fomin]

there is an UNDO
there is a REDO
there is an Undo History

I can clearly see an "Undo" button. But where is "Redo" button and "Undo History" are located ? Those two functions are not mentioned in manual also.

[lavizh]

rightclick on undo button.