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bjporter · Post by **bjporter** » Thu Jan 12, 2017 2:00 am

Results should be listed, thanks! I'll get that updated.

We've tried doing banks like this with varying success. It's usually easier if everyone uploads their sounds to the KVR preset site. You can tag OSC on it.

snare wrote:I am new to the OSC. Am planning to enter this month for the first time. A couple of questions.

The earlier OSC pages have the results listed but more recent OSC's do not. Where do I find the results for the more recent OSC's?
Are the Archive.org listings in order of results?

Has it been a proposed to collate presets from entries each month. Since each competitor would likely design many sounds especially for the less known synths like the HY-Mono I've been working with this month. If you put all or most of the presets from the entries together you would end up with a really useful bank of sounds that could be auditioned via the entries from the corresponding competitor. Thoughts?

brainzistor · Post by **brainzistor** » Thu Jan 12, 2017 7:38 am

So....

.jon wrote: Zampler RX is technically a synth (Synapse Audio Dune 1) with sfz-based oscillator

then me replying that Zampler doesn't have ANY oscillator.
Then he replies with this:

.jon wrote: It's not "based on Dune 1", it is Dune 1 with the wavetable-based "oscillator" section replaced by an sfz player. It lacks all the common functions of samplers, you can't layer sounds, pitch them, edit their start/end points, reverse them or set keyzones etc.

Sfz-based oscillator, then it's not, it's something else, a sfz player, let's brush away everything, a new beginning...
let's contradict ourselves completely to prove someone wrong, right?
Let's ignore that a sfz file holds any kind of information, practically proving that we don't even know
what sfz is, but let's argue, right?

.jon wrote: It's as much a synth as are all the PCM synths of 80/90's. Could it be that a synthesizer is defined by something else than just the sound source component? What is a synth? What is love? What happens next?
If you want to call it a sample player in a synth format, or even sampler you're free to do so, imagine that!

Following this broken logic Sforzando, Kontakt and all other samplers are not samplers, but PCM synths.
I called Zampler a sampler, then you are arguing that it's not a sampler and trying to prove me wrong,
then saying that we are free to call it a sampler. Imagine that...what?
Do you even listen to yourself?

You said that Zampler is technically a synth with a sfz-based oscillator.
Then you said that it's not, that it's a synth with sfz player.
Then it's not even that, it's a PCM synth.
What's next, it's a Space Shuttle? Train? Shovel?

I wrote this:

brainzistor wrote: A sfz-based oscillator would be a text editor, because sfz is nothing but a text file,
you do realize that sfz is a text file?

he replies with this:

.jon wrote: If you want to try and nitpick things, you need to be more precise. It's a sample format consisting of one or more text definition and audio files. You do realize that the .sfz file makes no sound on it's own? Hurr durr, see how dumb this game is?

like I didn't say that sfz is a text file. He actually wants to apply my words, my arguments against me.
Unbelievable.

And all of that makes out of me a:

.jon wrote: I don't have time for angry little autists today.

Which comes as a compliment, because if you are not even capable to replace "Z" in Zampler with "S" to realize what it is then I can't really help you. Even its name is telling you what it is, but somehow I'm an angry little autist. LMAO

I love you too, bro. Without people like you KVR would be such a boring place.
Keep it up

.jon · Post by **.jon** » Thu Jan 12, 2017 5:28 pm

I edited that part out, let's keep it on topic, ok?

mmGhost · Post by **mmGhost** » Fri Jan 13, 2017 12:20 am

mmGhost wrote:is xfer recrords' dimension expander allowed for osc entries?

i noticed a few people have used it in the past. searched this forum and nothing came up. cheers.

anyone?

wagtunes · Post by **wagtunes** » Fri Jan 13, 2017 12:22 am

mmGhost wrote:
mmGhost wrote:is xfer recrords' dimension expander allowed for osc entries?

i noticed a few people have used it in the past. searched this forum and nothing came up. cheers.
anyone?

Questions:

1) Is it free?

2) Does it change the actual tone of the synth?

If the answers to the above are yes and no respectively, then it's safe to use.

z.prime · Post by **z.prime** » Fri Jan 13, 2017 12:29 am

mmGhost wrote:is xfer recrords' dimension expander allowed for osc entries?

It's not really modulating anything, I think it's pretty similar (at least in sound) to a haas effect, maybe that and some short reverb, if modulation, it's just to add space, not to make chorusing or phasing, so just fine.

mmGhost · Post by **mmGhost** » Fri Jan 13, 2017 4:18 am

@wagtunes @z.prime, thx.

being a relative n00b to osc, why no love for chorus and flangers?

wagtunes · Post by **wagtunes** » Fri Jan 13, 2017 4:22 am

mmGhost wrote:@wagtunes @z.prime, thx.

being a relative n00b to osc, why no love for chorus and flangers?

Because they change the actual character of the synth's sound. If we allow modulation FX, you wouldn't be able to tell what synth it was anymore. Might as well just say "use any synth you want" for each contest.

That's why we don't allow it.

mmGhost · Post by **mmGhost** » Fri Jan 13, 2017 4:29 am

wagtunes wrote:Because they change the actual character of the synth's sound. If we allow modulation FX, you wouldn't be able to tell what synth it was anymore. Might as well just say "use any synth you want" for each contest.

That's why we don't allow it.

interesting. i've never really bothered to mangle sounds that much with a chorus...typically use it just to get a slight amount of stereo width on an otherwise mono sound.

it's all good. i'm not complainin ab the rules just curious. thx.

ballacr75 · Post by **ballacr75** » Sat Jan 14, 2017 11:07 am

Hi all, here some elaboration about kvrosc:
http://www.acadballa.com/2mp3/1cmp/_osc.pdf
http://www.acadballa.com/2mp3/1cmp/_osc_story.pdf
have a nice day
ballacr75

Paree · Post by **Paree** » Sat Jan 14, 2017 12:32 pm

Is using of VST Wrappers (Such as ImageLine MiniHost Modular) allowed?

Eauson · Post by **Eauson** » Sat Jan 14, 2017 12:35 pm

Paree wrote:Is using of VST Wrappers (Such as ImageLine MiniHost Modular) allowed?

I believe that minihost is fine, I've used It manyn times to allow use of certain synths etc on an older daw.

RichardSemper · Post by **RichardSemper** » Sat Jan 14, 2017 2:45 pm

ballacr75 wrote:Hi all, here some elaboration about kvrosc:
http://www.acadballa.com/2mp3/1cmp/_osc.pdf
http://www.acadballa.com/2mp3/1cmp/_osc_story.pdf
have a nice day
ballacr75

This is really cool! Thanks

bjporter · Post by **bjporter** » Sat Jan 14, 2017 4:10 pm

RichardSemper wrote:
ballacr75 wrote:Hi all, here some elaboration about kvrosc:
http://www.acadballa.com/2mp3/1cmp/_osc.pdf
http://www.acadballa.com/2mp3/1cmp/_osc_story.pdf
have a nice day
ballacr75
This is really cool! Thanks

+1 realy great!

photonic · Post by **photonic** » Sat Jan 14, 2017 4:40 pm

ballacr75 wrote:Hi all, here some elaboration about kvrosc:
...
ballacr75

Wow, you did a wonderfull job with this statistics. Realy a lot of effort

And it makes me proud to see me in such a cool position

Thanx for this suberb overview!

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