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I too use Windows, Linux, and OSX on a daily basis (though OSX is my favourite). A Linux version would be great and I'd happily test/use it. However given the lack of VST instruments on Linux things would be a bit of a novelty. An OSX version would be nice too (since you obviously have all this spare time!!).
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anselmoso wrote: you can see here, which vst plugins are running on linux:

http://www.djcj.org/LAU/ladspavst/

which soundcards are supported under linux is viewable here:

http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/
God - you could get lost in those pages.
Bloody confusing too.

Linux seems to be a fairly "low-level" OS for this sort of stuff.

I'm still interested, but I'm guessing that as my primary production tools tend to be things like SR/IK sample playback engines like ST2, SS2, Miro Philharmonik, I may be out of luck. Not to mention the fact that they don't even list Creamware as a possible contender for soundcard compatibility.

Still a possibility for live work though (if I ever do that).

Caleb
Happiness is the hidden behind the obvious.
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Caleb wrote:God - you could get lost in those pages.
Bloody confusing too.
Yeah a lot of Linux stuff seems too fractious and disorganized, and for me that's Linux's big downfall as a desktop system, although it's killer for servers. Heck, in twelve years I have never even taken the time to figure out how to print anything from my Linux systems much less do midi and audio (other than running xmms on my laptop). I tried, but I didn't want to deal with all the competing print servers or whatever, even though it's not too far off from what I do for a living. My sweetie's XP laptop you pretty much just plug the printer in and it works. Maybe it's just a matter of getting the right distribution (I've run debian the past 6 years but haven't upgraded for a long long time because every time I did I got more bloat).
Jorgen wrote:vstgui is not for windows only, its also for mac so it is crossplatform. It would not be a problem to port the vstgui to linux either.
I don't know a whole lot about it, I've never written a vst with a gui, just some simple stuff I put together with gcc many years ago. At the time, the combination of working with gcc and the IMO really poorly written VST2 spec limited me a bit so I never got to the point of doing a gui for anything.

Now I see vstgui has been open sourced. Well. That might change things. It would be cool to be able to do some VST development on Linux where it's not necessary to pay a company hundreds of dollars for the privilege of building software that runs on their so-called OS.
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jorgen wrote:I use xp, linux and osx on a daily basis and I must say linux is my favorite.

So, Im not the only one wanting a binary (no compiling needed) linux verison then?

jorgen
Only now read this. If I would get my most beloved VSTis to run on Linux (which should be possible as far as I know) and there was a Linux-EXT I'd do it like Bones and use a dual-boot-computer, mainly using Linux. In fact would I know there was a Linux-EXT I'd surely spend more time and nag my friends to get Linux perfectly running here.
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since OSX is now a Unix derivative, wouldn't it be relatively painless to port from Linux to OSX?
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+1 for Linux version of eXT. :D I run a dual boot setup with Windows and Slackware. With a Linux version of eXT I could probably drop Windows as I mainly use it for audio right now.
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Caleb wrote: And I have grave doubts that my Creamware cards will run on Linux also.

Have I got this right?

Caleb
Round 2004, Creamware announced their intention to port Scope to OSX and Linux ... then gave up on the Linux project, dreading the intellectual property issues.
involved.
http://www.planetz.com/forums/viewtopic ... 0&forum=10

Shame.
More genereally speaking, I would love to see a Linux version of XT [all the more so that it now has a sampler], mainly because it would allow me to tweak a stable box for bringing on stage.

I spent some time last year building a CCRMA-based Linux DAW, then gave up using it, mainly because I did not take to the existing audio apps. Having our known- and-loved XT available would better justify the learning curve of moving to that platform IMO.

Cheers :love:
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Klawzz wrote: More genereally speaking, I would love to see a Linux version of XT [all the more so that it now has a sampler], mainly because it would allow me to tweak a stable box for bringing on stage.
Yeah - that's what I was thinking. It would still be a serious consideration for live work with me I reckon - again, if I did live work. ;)

Caleb
Happiness is the hidden behind the obvious.
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SleepyP wrote:since OSX is now a Unix derivative, wouldn't it be relatively painless to port from Linux to OSX?
yeah, and even better now that we have osx86 ... so that you don't have to make the code processor independent ...

then again, afaik, if you code any software the way that the code compiles correctly on any platform ... it .. well, it /does/ ;)

and that means that we kinda already had this option, to only have to code one source, and then just have to compile it on all the platforms.

of course that ment that we had to use libraries that could be found on all the platforms, which then made everything a bit slow and unstable... but how much is the situation changed now? (ppcosx->x86linux and/or osx86->x86linux)
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hi caleb,

well the linux support for your hardware isn't there, yet. but lots of other homerecording hardware is supported. all the famous M-Audio Cards are running, the ESI Juli@ and other ESI cards run fine (EgoSys is supporting linux development), and so on....
there are samplers, especially there's a well known drum sampler for linux which "kicks ass" and shows the windows samplers "where the hammer hangs" ;)

here's a track, which is produced completely under linux with free samplers / synthesizers / free drum samples / free effects / free sequencer software, etc...

http://www.helgo.net/gavel/sound/lunar/ ... e_Girl.ogg

the song isn't my favourite;) but the production is very nice in my opinion and the sounds are also quite good - don't you think?

quote from the songwriter:

"Things used:
SW:
jack
MusE 0.7 w simpledrums + fluidsynth
ZynAddSubFX-2.2.1
Jamin

HW:
1 old microphone
1 fender lined through a V-AMP2
A computer
cables
+ a lot of electrones"


right now, there are many people i know, who would love to switch over to linux for homerecording. and EXT would be THE killer application for homerecording on linux, cause all the other sequencers (Muse, Rosegarden, Ardour) don't have the important features, that EXT has. The loop recording for example isn't implemented in any linux sequencer right now, which is the most importtant feature for me.
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Yeah - unfortunately the fact that my soundcards aren't supported means a pretty absolute no for studio use.

But M-Audio cards are a pretty good product if I wanted to build a special live box, so thanks for the tip.

Caleb
Happiness is the hidden behind the obvious.
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I think jorgen said at one time that he was considering producing a Linux version of eXT.

Not sure where that went or if he's still considering it.

Caleb
o.k.: giving away *bussines secrets* but anyway:
jorgen confirmed that v2 prototype already runs natively on linux via oss. I also gave him the link to the clin - intel optimizing compiler for linux, which is available for free for noncommercial use. so there: *hug your coder* :)
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there were questions *why linux*. simple answer: most of *serious* distros come with majority of what you need for a media production studio. except easy audio and compositing app. don't trust me - search www for references. latest: there was a feature film done recently, also starring Ornella Mutti and Hanna Shcygulla, with sfx done with opensource software that pretty much comes out of standard debian install. here website: http://www.softanim.com/vendredi/index.html http://users.skynet.be/mume//vendredi/blender.html fact that linux became a *hollywood os* gave back some serious opensource production apps. if you need more, you can buy heavyweight production apps for linux (redhat). but not so much in audio department for now.
edit: suse seems to come with mainactor. and pd. surprisingly, there's a lot of mean graphic packages on fbsd, and they seem to be the latest stable versions.
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SleepyP wrote:since OSX is now a Unix derivative, wouldn't it be relatively painless to port from Linux to OSX?
Well, I am not so sure, because compilation depends on many libs, especially the audio layer ones (OSS or ALSA on Linux, AU on OSX).
Plus the graphic libraries may differ. Plus possibly other issues I am not aware of :shock:
Take this with a grain of salt, as I am no expert in audio developpement.
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+1 here for a Linux energyXT.

Would definitely lead me to switch. Please do it! :)
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