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- KVRAF
- 10597 posts since 13 Jun, 2004 from Alberto Balsam
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- KVRian
- 516 posts since 15 Apr, 2005 from Melbourne, Australia
Though I agree with you that monitoring is the most important link in the chain, the list of monitors provided is hardly 'cheap' and 'the bottom of the barrel' - pakana clearly states that these are:high tech wrote:the only problem with the list of monitors your provided, is that they are pretty much all 'cheap' and are the bottom of the barrel when it comes to monitoring.
this is THE MOST IMPORTANT link in you audio chain - the monitors tell you what exactly is happening in your machine - this is the area of audio gear that YOU DO NOT want to cheap out on.
also your 'list' and brief description of the units is a recital of product marketing.
here is a REAL review of professional nearfield monitors:
http://www.prorec.com/prorec/articles.n ... enDocument
by the way - also remember to spend at least the same amount of money on treating your room as you do on your monitors (cause the best monitors in the world will sound like crap in a crappy room)
cheers.
"active studio monitors I could find in the <600 EUR range"
Like it says, thats why you won't find more expensive models in a list of BUDGET monitors. Have a look at the title of the thread too.
Besides, 600 EUR is still a fair bit of money in anyone's language.
Pakana's list also clearly states that:
"Texts are assembled from webstore sales blurbs and manufacturers' specs"
so its MEANT to be a 'recital of product marketing'.
I guess in an ideal world it would be economic to spend large sums of money on acoustically treating your room, but I think its unnecessary for those of us who are interested in a list of monitors available at the budget end of the market. Nearfield monitors are by their very nature less prone to the vagaries of the acoustics of the room than other types anyway, but if you're trying get your sound spot-on for professional purposes, then it that case acoustic treatment makes sense.
Thanx for the link to the reviews though, and thanx to pakana for the time in compiling a list of pretty much everything thats available in the budget category.
"Music is native to the human mind. There is not a culture on Earth that does not have it, and our brains are wired to apprehend and be moved by its magic." - National Geographic, March 2005
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- KVRer
- 5 posts since 23 Sep, 2003 from the end of the world
Do you know what is a diffrence beetween Event alp5 and Event tr5 ????? Are Apl5 improved version of tr5s???
I have oportunity to change my tr5s to ALP5 do you think it is worth to do it???:help:
greets
I have oportunity to change my tr5s to ALP5 do you think it is worth to do it???:help:
greets
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- KVRAF
- 2935 posts since 14 Dec, 2003 from Edinburgh
Yup, hence the title "budget monitors ... the BIG list"high tech wrote:the only problem with the list of monitors your provided, is that they are pretty much all 'cheap' and are the bottom of the barrel when it comes to monitoring.
this is THE MOST IMPORTANT link in you audio chain - the monitors tell you what exactly is happening in your machine - this is the area of audio gear that YOU DO NOT want to cheap out on.
also your 'list' and brief description of the units is a recital of product marketing.
here is a REAL review of professional nearfield monitors:
http://www.prorec.com/prorec/articles.n ... enDocument
by the way - also remember to spend at least the same amount of money on treating your room as you do on your monitors (cause the best monitors in the world will sound like crap in a crappy room)
cheers.
Also, I've read your link before, but it left me feeling unconvinced by it's usefulnesss for some reason. The Electronic Musician test is far better IMO.
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- KVRist
- 240 posts since 20 Nov, 2003 from Atlanta and Portland
the article that was linked was interesting but besides not having anything to do with this list or discussion I don't totallly agree with the opinions. I don't love working on Genelecs, I certainly can and do when I have to but they are not a top choice for me. they make everything sound "pretty" and how does that help? I've worked with the JBL's briefly a couple times and really liked them. I don't remeber hating the KRK's but I know some that do and some that don't. I think the reviewer was very fair and stated that others may have differing opinions and I'm not considering price (because I didn't have to buy them) and he was, but there you go.
I really like (and have) the NHT Pro M00's. I think they're about $500. they could use a sub, but they sound great. Not a lot of people know about them but they are a great bargain IMHO.
Billy
I really like (and have) the NHT Pro M00's. I think they're about $500. they could use a sub, but they sound great. Not a lot of people know about them but they are a great bargain IMHO.
Billy
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 5851 posts since 9 Jul, 2002 from Helsinki
Thanks Dazza for clearing things 
As stated earlier, this list was originally compiled to my own purposes, to get a clearer pic of what's available in my price range. I thought here might be others with similar budgets. It is obvious that the real pro stuff is more expensive, but having 1000 eur monitors in your bedroom, when one makes music primarily for oneself and maybe friends does not really make a lot of sense to me.
Bongo_x, there are huge differencies in prices between EU and USA, and sadly the NHT monitors you mentioned seem to go for 340 EUR per piece in Europe. This list is based on EU pricing, otherwise it would have been too complex to structure.
If someone is looking at US -made monitors and willing to go thru the trouble, for example the Events and KRKs are a lot cheaper across the ocean.
As stated earlier, this list was originally compiled to my own purposes, to get a clearer pic of what's available in my price range. I thought here might be others with similar budgets. It is obvious that the real pro stuff is more expensive, but having 1000 eur monitors in your bedroom, when one makes music primarily for oneself and maybe friends does not really make a lot of sense to me.
Bongo_x, there are huge differencies in prices between EU and USA, and sadly the NHT monitors you mentioned seem to go for 340 EUR per piece in Europe. This list is based on EU pricing, otherwise it would have been too complex to structure.
If someone is looking at US -made monitors and willing to go thru the trouble, for example the Events and KRKs are a lot cheaper across the ocean.
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 5851 posts since 9 Jul, 2002 from Helsinki
Thanks for the heads-up. ALP5 seems to be completely new design, new cabinet and different drivers. Couldn't find any reviews, sorry.JahBonk wrote:Do you know what is a diffrence beetween Event alp5 and Event tr5 ????? Are Apl5 improved version of tr5s???
I have oportunity to change my tr5s to ALP5 do you think it is worth to do it???:help:
greets
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 5851 posts since 9 Jul, 2002 from Helsinki
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- KVRer
- 5 posts since 23 Sep, 2003 from the end of the world
cheers!
I have red that tweeter is similar from studio precission and bass one improved tr5. I don't like the design I will probably stay with my tr5s they are okey
greets
I have red that tweeter is similar from studio precission and bass one improved tr5. I don't like the design I will probably stay with my tr5s they are okey
greets
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- KVRer
- 16 posts since 9 Aug, 2004
NICE list kapana
Would also like to remind the Future music test with speakers as well about 1 year ago with very interesting results Yamaha did great there unlike what the editor on pro rec would recommend
I have been thinking to get the Genelec 8020’s myself choosing such a small speaker mainly cause the limitations on room and volumes I can use at the moments and thinking that it would be a good investment if coupled in the future with a sub maybe fostex PM at only 289 E or Tannoy TS8 at 312 E
Any opinions about 2.1 more than welcome and for the 8020’s as well
Would also like to hear about tannoy’s 5A which got a 10/10 in Music Tech last month and I am dying to hear another opinion ever since
Thanks a lot
Would also like to remind the Future music test with speakers as well about 1 year ago with very interesting results Yamaha did great there unlike what the editor on pro rec would recommend
I have been thinking to get the Genelec 8020’s myself choosing such a small speaker mainly cause the limitations on room and volumes I can use at the moments and thinking that it would be a good investment if coupled in the future with a sub maybe fostex PM at only 289 E or Tannoy TS8 at 312 E
Any opinions about 2.1 more than welcome and for the 8020’s as well
Would also like to hear about tannoy’s 5A which got a 10/10 in Music Tech last month and I am dying to hear another opinion ever since
Thanks a lot
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- KVRAF
- 7829 posts since 6 Oct, 2003 from Quebec
it's the price for one boxaMUSEd wrote:You should add the new tiny Genelec 8020a's which are possibly just within your range:
http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/8020A
and you really need the sub that is almost 1000 canadian$(600 US$)
edit: http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/8020TriPak
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- KVRian
- 516 posts since 15 Apr, 2005 from Melbourne, Australia
...or the S5's. Though I bought KRK RP-6's, I looked at a set of S5's, but never had chance to listen to themDoomcore wrote:What do you guys think about Tapco S8....anyone tested them, have them???
"Music is native to the human mind. There is not a culture on Earth that does not have it, and our brains are wired to apprehend and be moved by its magic." - National Geographic, March 2005
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- KVRAF
- 2495 posts since 18 May, 2004 from ATL-USA
I agree, but of course I have to as that's what I use.will.record.for.food wrote:Oooh,
The Samson resolv 65a's get my vote!
My Review of the Samson Resolv 65a
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I paid $400 for the pair and for the price I don't think you can beat speakers in this size range. The mids and highs are very distinct and the option to boost/cut the mids is nice for testing mixdowns. The bass is lacking below about 90hz (although they are rated 40hz-22khz). I got the matching 8" sub and am very happy with the results. The sub comes with a remote control which allows you to adjust sub volume and system volume separatly. There is also a "mute sub" and "mute all" button on the remote control as well as a "sys dim" button. If you are looking to buy these monitors then I would highly recommend getting the sub.
Pros:
clear sound especially in the highs
mid boost/cut knob
individual volume controls
price
Cons:
bass is lacking
no front panel volume or headphone jack
the cones themselves are not well protected (no grills)
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Hope this helps some folks...
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