Upgrade FL or Buy energyXT?

[Hink]

The survey is all wrong, since it's a no-brainer to get eXT *AND* FLS.

I agree, but you have to understand and respect BONES point of view (though not so bitterly expressed wouldn't hurt). He believes less is more, as he said too me once "why would anyone need more then one host"...I can understand and relate, but I also learn from mutiple hosts....but his point of view is valid and noble imo...

[BONES]

I'm an idiot now? charming.

Don't take it personally, you're all f**king idiots.

As I said, you live to be offended by Image-Line, there's not much I can do about that.

For that they have only themsleves to blame. I was perfectly happy to remain a registered user but they decided for some reason that because I preferred ORION I should not be allowed to continue to use Fruity as well. What really galled me was that I was just as vocal defending Fruity as I was criticising it, they just chose to ignore anything I said that didn't suit their agenda.

FL Studio 6 was free and is a superb upgrade to an already class leading program. I wonder what FL 7 will bring?

Class-leading? What, kindergarten? MMWWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

[Hink]

fl, orion, ext, sonar, logic, roland, yamaha, mackie, tascam, otari...it don't matter...it's still about them there 6 strings I call home...

[lunik]

Hopefully piano-roll midi export. Such a basic and useful feature.

I'm planning to move to Podium once my current work is done, FL's audio handling just can't cut it for anything other than basic recording and chopping, and I'm tired of rendering to disk all the time every time I change something on a midi track.

Unfortunately FL won't let you export midi into another host.

The fact that idiots like you swallow it hook, line and sinker is what makes it so annoying.

I'm an idiot now? charming.

As I said, you live to be offended by Image-Line, there's not much I can do about that.

FL Studio 6 was free and is a superb upgrade to an already class leading program. I wonder what FL 7 will bring?

Carb.

[Lagrange]

Man I've yet to hear anyone talk about using both apps together.. I've made whole songs using MIDI like djing 2 vinyl records together recording into ext and exporting back to FL patterns then adding on and having the ablity to edit and create infinate layers. I purchased Both!!

C

[Lagrange]

lunik.. yes I know that sucks but you can record it!! Using EXT as a "back-catcher" for your midi!!

C

[experimental.crow]

Hopefully piano-roll midi export. Such a basic and useful feature.

I'm planning to move to Podium once my current work is done, FL's audio handling just can't cut it for anything other than basic recording and chopping, and I'm tired of rendering to disk all the time every time I change something on a midi track.

Unfortunately FL won't let you export midi into another host.

The fact that idiots like you swallow it hook, line and sinker is what makes it so annoying.

I'm an idiot now? charming.

As I said, you live to be offended by Image-Line, there's not much I can do about that.

FL Studio 6 was free and is a superb upgrade to an already class leading program. I wonder what FL 7 will bring?

Carb.

well ...
that's news to me ...
i do it all the time ...

[flippya2000]

Unfortunately FL won't let you export midi into another host.

This is one of the main reasons I h8 FLS - that & the fact it uses it owns unique format to save everything - fst instead of the much more universal fxp is an example. Don't get me wrong I used to like FL, but for every 10 things it does well, it has 1 REALLY annoying thing that justs make me wana scream!

i do it all the time ...

Not without editting the midi file exported via FL you don't. I asked gol this recently & he has confirmed it, saying that loads of other information is added to the midi file, like program changes, etc - that weren't there originally, this causes the file not to play properly in eXT, I'm not sure about other hosts though

[lunik]

ah...clever...replace my instrument with an instance eXT and press record within eXT, something like that?

lunik.. yes I know that sucks but you can record it!! Using EXT as a "back-catcher" for your midi!!

C

[james0tucson]

The survey is all wrong, since it's a no-brainer to get eXT *AND* FLS.

I agree, but you have to understand and respect BONES point of view

If I have to "understand" BONES, the game is lost. He's entitled to his opinion, but I honestly don't understand why he comments on FLS topics at all. He is literally the furthest possible thing from a FLS user.

[lunik]

how do you do it?

well ...
that's news to me ...
i do it all the time ...

[flippya2000]

Man I've yet to hear anyone talk about using both apps together.. I've made whole songs using MIDI like djing 2 vinyl records together recording into ext and exporting back to FL patterns then adding on and having the ablity to edit and create infinate layers. I purchased Both!!

C

I would also like to know how!

[james0tucson]

Unfortunately FL won't let you export midi into another host.

This is one of the main reasons I h8 FLS - that & the fact it uses it owns unique format to save everything - fst instead of the much more universal fxp is an example. Don't get me wrong I used to like FL, but for every 10 things it does well, it has 1 REALLY annoying thing that justs make me wana scream!

i do it all the time ...

Not without editting the midi file exported via FL you don't. I asked gol this recently & he has confirmed it, saying that loads of other information is added to the midi file, like program changes, etc - that weren't there originally, this causes the file not to play properly in eXT, I'm not sure about other hosts though

You can make Midi-OX filter everything except note messages and whatever controllers you care about. I suppose it's more often a good thing than a bad thing that the midi-out generator does resets. It's pretty strange that you can't select that as an option. But then, the FL devs don't like MIDI. Not that they are in a position to supersede MIDI with the next thing, of course. Strange business to be in, if you don't like MIDI

[flippya2000]

You can make Midi-OX filter everything except note messages and whatever controllers you care about.

Thanx for the tip! Looks like those midi files ruined by FL may be rescueable after all..

Still itz alot quicker to just use a host, like eXT, that export midi files correctly in the 1st place..

Strange business to be in, if you don't like MIDI Shrug

Strange indeed..

[Hink]

The survey is all wrong, since it's a no-brainer to get eXT *AND* FLS.

I agree, but you have to understand and respect BONES point of view

If I have to "understand" BONES, the game is lost. He's entitled to his opinion, but I honestly don't understand why he comments on FLS topics at all. He is literally the furthest possible thing from a FLS user.

I dont either part of the character we know as BONES...what I meant by you have to understand is he likes one host...it's his way...but you're right it does seem like he's on a vendetta against FL...which doesn't help him much but likely makes people check out the demo to see what he's talking about and probably he sells more copies of FL then he talks out of it.

Face it we love to hate everything..