Freebie samples from my new PPG Wave 2.2!

[vurt]

ppg teg.


gets a bits chaotic in parts, but i kinda enjoyed that
all one take, just the samples through traveliser and some delay

thanks scot

[Scot Solida]

nice scott

so what do you say when you compare the real PPG to the vsti ?

what is the difference?
only the imperfection, the feeling, the knobs, the look, the...

what would you say?

I have the vsti,
and I think I might never have the money to buy a real one, but
I´d really like to know

and maybe some day .... who knows ....

As I said, the VST models the PPG Wave 2.3, so I expect there to be a difference right off. The 2.3 was 12 bit, and therefore sounded a bit cleaner.

Still, after a comparison between the VST and my 2.2, I can safely say that the VST is damned close. There are a few differences...mine has more noise and is grittier. It is aggressive in a different way from the VST (though the VST can be quite aggressive!). The sound is less clinical, even with the "true PPG" setting switched on in the VST there is a bit more sheen. This is probably due to the fact that it is mdoeling the 12 bit version. I suspect that the real VCAs and VCFs have a lot to do with it (the PPG used the Curtis filter chips that were common in the synths of the early eighties).

Of course, the VST version is far easier to patch...lacking as it does the abbreviations and cursor stuff. The analogue controls seem to respond differently...especially the filter controls and envelope controls.

As a little (and very unscientific) test, I recorded filter movements on both the hardware and software versions. These are by no means exactly the same patches, but they are similar, and they both use wavetable number 13, so the frequency content is the same (or should be!). I start with the filter cutoff (which is already being slightly modulated by an envelope). I turned the filter cutoff slowly to the full position. I then turn the resonance (which was off) all the way up, afterwhich I turned the cutoff all the way down.

Oddly, the real deal seems much louder to me, even though I normalized them both to -2 dB. Also, the real PPG seems to have a bit jumpier cutoff than the VST.

In any event, check it out in this clip:

www.olscratchrecordings.com/Sounds/PPG_A_B.mp3

Like I say, they weren't the exact same patch, but you can plainly hear the difference in the filter sound. The real one is first, followed by the VST.

One things for sure...software filter design has come a long way since the PPG 2.V was issued!

Nevertheless, upon playing with them side by side, I think the VST version is just about anything anyone but the most die-hard PPG fan might need, unless they are feeling the need to curate a synth museum...

[Scot Solida]

ppg teg.


gets a bits chaotic in parts, but i kinda enjoyed that
all one take, just the samples through traveliser and some delay

thanks scot

This is incredibly cool...very cinematic! Thanks vurt...

[dixichickiller]

As many of you know, one of my long held dreams came true when I recently bought a vintage PPG Wave 2.2. This seminal digital/analogue hybrid sounds fantastic, full of grit and bite thanks to it's 8-bit resolution and analogue VCF and VCAs. After a few hours with the real thing, it's easy to see why folks like Tangerine Dream, Gary Numan, Rush and Propaganda were so enamoured of the blue beastie.

To celebrate my new find, I made a trio of patches to share with you all. These patches are my own designs, sampled across the keyboard and then mapped into NN-XT, HALion, SFZ, Kontakt and DS-404 formats:

www.olscratchrecordings.com/Sounds/TEGPPG.zip

And here are the DS-404 versions:

www.olscratchrecordings.com/Sounds/TEGPPGDS.zip

If you use the NN-XT, HALion or Kontakt versions, you'll need to copy the entire "TEGPPG" folder onto your C drive, otherwise, you may have to tell your sampler where to find the samples.

If you use SFZ format, then you'll need to copy the individual SFZ patches from the SFZ folder into the matching sample folders (in other words, "TEGPPGBass.sfz" goes into the "TEGPPGBass" folder.)

These three patches are representative of what the PPG does best. There is a metallic bass sound of the sort that made the instrument famous, along with a gargling wavetable sweep and a plaintif kind of patch that would have been right at home on Tangerine Dream's "Logos" album.

These sounds contain all the grime and aliasing noise inherent in the PPG Wave 2.2 sound. What can I say? I like imperfections!

The downloads are over thirty megs, so all but the most intrepid dialup users might be out of luck...

that was very cool of you to pass out the killer ds404 patches, but im still new to the sampling game and want to find out where more ds404 patches are lurking, other than on the cm disc and the muon website of course. but i was wondering if you could give me some words of wisdom perhaps or even some sites you know of that have ds404 format patches? and lots of thanks to the ppg wave patches,good stuff!