KVR Audio

Alan · Post by **Alan** » Sun Mar 19, 2006 5:51 am

MacQ wrote:Hmm ...

it gives me an error every time I try to load it. I've already wasted 5 starts with it giving me a "9000 error" or somesuch.

All that for $30.00.

Broken · Post by **Broken** » Sun Mar 19, 2006 11:04 pm

dougsyo · Post by **dougsyo** » Mon Mar 20, 2006 12:43 pm

TeleJuan wrote:I ordered CSR based on reviews I'd read and the demos on their site and was a little afraid of the dongle, since there's so much ranting about it. Truth is, I got CSR 2 days ago and it's so frigging awesome that the key is now the last thing on my mind... I installed it and had no problems with it since. I did have to buy a hub but, other than that, I don't see what the big deal is. If the software is worth it (and CSR is!) I don't mind connecting one more little thing to my PC...

That's like Philharmonik for me - I bought it based on demos, confidence in Squids et al, and reviews. I am not at all a fan of dongles, but I was willing to do it for IK/SR (actually, they're the first company I was willing to do C/R copy protection with, too). I give them credit for using the syncrosoft dongle rather than the Pace Ilok, that would've been a different story.

Right now, the only reason I haven't demo'd CSR is that I *know* I'll buy it if I do.

Doug

dougsyo · Post by **dougsyo** » Mon Mar 20, 2006 12:45 pm

Broken wrote:If IK makes it possible to have it installed on two machines being used at the same time, then I will buy it in a heart beat

Squids has stated that since the copy protection goes with the dongle, not the PC, it can be installed on multiple machines.

Even when they used machine-specific C/R protection, they let you have three "automatic" authorizations.

Doug

dougsyo · Post by **dougsyo** » Mon Mar 20, 2006 12:46 pm

brok landers wrote:anybody directly compared it to the artsacoustic reverb?
how does it compare (if one can compare these anyway as they seem to have very diffrent approaches), what do you think, honestly?
i don't own a cubase dongle, so i'm not able to test it, thats why i'm asking ...

IIRC, there was discussion comparing the two on the Cakewalk boards - I know one "major player" reverb was compared.

Edit: Correction, it was the UAD Plate 140 reverb, not Artsacoustic. Here's the discussion from CSR there: http://forum.cakewalk.com/tm.asp?m=720964

Doug

kmonkey · Post by **kmonkey** » Tue Mar 21, 2006 11:41 am

So? Any AartsAcoustic vs CSR opinion? bmanic maybe?

Melodioso · Post by **Melodioso** » Tue Mar 21, 2006 12:25 pm

I tested the CSR demo a few times, so here is my (short) review ot it:

- it's a good reverb, especially for vocal, ac guitars and drums. There are many parameters to shape the sound. It can sound a bit metallic sometimes though...

- for classical or film music however, I wasn't impresed at all. I think GigaPulse sounds much better for example, it has more depth and is more natural sounding than CSR.

Depending on what style of music you are doing, it may be what you're looking for. But I don't think it's the one solution reverb... or the last one you're going to buy.

If you don't already have a good reverb, and if SIR or PristineSpace and the impulses you can find on the net are not enough, then I recommend it.

Otherwise... next!

lavoll · Post by **lavoll** » Tue Mar 21, 2006 12:35 pm

how doe sit compare to that other reverb.. uhh. R66? was that the name?

DevonB · Post by **DevonB** » Tue Mar 21, 2006 2:27 pm

Melodioso wrote:- for classical or film music however, I wasn't impresed at all. I think GigaPulse sounds much better for example, it has more depth and is more natural sounding than CSR.

To be fair, Gigapulse is a convolution, and not an algorhythmic. Gigapulse with the right impulse is simply incredible though, and the best 'verb I've heard. Most algo 'verbs I've heard suffer from the metallic problem though, so I can't say I'm surprised. Still need the time to demo this thing though.

Devon

sghoughton · Post by **sghoughton** » Tue Mar 21, 2006 2:46 pm

Are there any presets available for the demo that would highlight certain aspects of this reverb? I'm comparing to masterverb 5 and a few others but so far I can't seem to find any settings that really make it stand out beyond those. My feeling though is that I'm just not using it correctly and but i'm shortly closing in on my 25 uses so i'd like to wait til some presets are available to see what someone who knows what they're doing has done.

steve

No name · Post by **No name** » Tue Mar 21, 2006 3:01 pm

What will you all do when you have more dongles than USB inserts?

No name · Post by **No name** » Tue Mar 21, 2006 3:05 pm

In all fairness, it is 400 dollars, couldn't they have at least included the dongle for free?

harmony gardens · Post by **harmony gardens** » Tue Mar 21, 2006 3:08 pm

No name wrote:What will you all do when you have more dongles than USB inserts?

you can put more than one license on the same key.

They do include a dongle when you buy CSR, it comes in the box.

DevonB · Post by **DevonB** » Tue Mar 21, 2006 7:17 pm

No name wrote:What will you all do when you have more dongles than USB inserts?

Either stop using other dongles, buy a USB PCI card, or use a USB hub. Hubs suck. I've had a lot of problems with them and dongles/devices in the past, even when I've provided power to the hub externally.

Devon

beergeek · Post by **beergeek** » Tue Mar 21, 2006 8:15 pm

DevonB wrote:
No name wrote:What will you all do when you have more dongles than USB inserts?
Either stop using other dongles, buy a USB PCI card, or use a USB hub. Hubs suck. I've had a lot of problems with them and dongles/devices in the past, even when I've provided power to the hub externally.

Devon

Hmmm...I bought a powered hub at best buy...dynex 7 port...it was cheap and I've got 3 dongles in it, my keyboard and my wireless earpiece charger...

I've never had a problem..

CSR demo is out