And why he remove all posts?
the reason software compressors don't sound good
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Voidoid Surrealist Voidoid Surrealist https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=41079
- KVRAF
- 4048 posts since 18 Sep, 2004 from Places far less tedious than this blue trainwreck...
Does jp2 have a twin that we don't know about?
- KVRAF
- 12615 posts since 7 Dec, 2004
a lot of the more complex compressors actually are difficult to use in my opinion. they're usually based upon low distortion, smooth shaping, etc. if you want just a plain compressor like you'd get with a guitar insert, try mine: http://xhip.cjb.net/temp/xhipeffects_compressor.dll
i wrote this because when trying other software compressors i really didnt like the result. it seemed like they are ment to do something other than the usual tasks of compression.. this one works exactly the same as the most simple circuit you can build, and infact i designed the electronic circuit first and based the dsp code upon it.
i think some of the problem with these things is the same as the problem with "why does software suck compared to analog/hardware".. uh.. probably because you keep listening to what other people say, have no personal experiance with these things and have a highly active imagination.
yes, there are differences, but they're only differences. i've never heard someone complain "why does a flute not sound like a guitar".. come on. i can understand if you're talking about those software which are advertised as "sounds analog.. using patented suprah-vxq analog emulation technology".. well, i can explain that, they're liars, false advertising!
only an elephant is an elephant, a giraffe is never an elephant no matter how much you paint it grey or claim it is!
"why does 4 not equal 192?" is not a valid question! in asking such things your logic is obviously flawed. now get over it and make some music.
i wrote this because when trying other software compressors i really didnt like the result. it seemed like they are ment to do something other than the usual tasks of compression.. this one works exactly the same as the most simple circuit you can build, and infact i designed the electronic circuit first and based the dsp code upon it.
i think some of the problem with these things is the same as the problem with "why does software suck compared to analog/hardware".. uh.. probably because you keep listening to what other people say, have no personal experiance with these things and have a highly active imagination.
yes, there are differences, but they're only differences. i've never heard someone complain "why does a flute not sound like a guitar".. come on. i can understand if you're talking about those software which are advertised as "sounds analog.. using patented suprah-vxq analog emulation technology".. well, i can explain that, they're liars, false advertising!
only an elephant is an elephant, a giraffe is never an elephant no matter how much you paint it grey or claim it is!
"why does 4 not equal 192?" is not a valid question! in asking such things your logic is obviously flawed. now get over it and make some music.
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- KVRAF
- 6478 posts since 16 Dec, 2002
My kinda thread!aciddose wrote:only an elephant is an elephant, a giraffe is never an elephant no matter how much you paint it grey or claim it is!

- KVRAF
- 12615 posts since 7 Dec, 2004
i've made a special edition of my "dont whine like a baby" track, demonstrating my compressor, and my impression of the thread starter.
http://xhip.cjb.net/temp/compressorbaby.mp3
http://xhip.cjb.net/temp/compressorbaby.mp3
- KVRian
- 663 posts since 28 Feb, 2003 from out
wsaidah wrote:deleted
kinda hard to follow a thread this way
- KVRAF
- 12615 posts since 7 Dec, 2004
you can pretty much tell what he was saying. using his imagination most likely and see my examples of invalid logic.
"one should equal two." because?....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Two_plus_two_make_five
"one should equal two." because?....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Two_plus_two_make_five
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Jason Brian Merrill Jason Brian Merrill https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=87372
- KVRAF
- 2694 posts since 11 Nov, 2005 from http://maps.google.com/maps?oi=map&q=Massena,+NY --(on the Canadian border)
i mean... actually -- some hardware compressors DO change the sound without any gain reduction -- but as already mentioned, its cause of input/output circuits or something. So, his point is valid -- but im sure some of the software compressors out there do the same thing --- marquis I have demoed and can confirm that one at least.
check my profile for contact info.
msn messenger is my email as well.
msn messenger is my email as well.
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- KVRAF
- 10815 posts since 26 Nov, 2004 from UK
i like your codeing skills!!!aciddose wrote:i've made a special edition of my "dont whine like a baby" track, demonstrating my compressor, and my impression of the thread starter.
http://xhip.cjb.net/temp/compressorbaby.mp3
- KVRAF
- 12615 posts since 7 Dec, 2004
if you listen to my mp3, you'll also notice the rms is extremely modified while having the same peak gain, and i'm tweaking that in realtime too, no assistance from calculations in the plugin. i could do peak gain matching from input to output if it were a feature that is nessicary..
but god man, use the gain control!
i think he was talking more about nonsence than that though, since even a compressor like mine works beautifully to do that. he should try my compressor and tell if that is what he is talking about though... i doubt he would like it.
all compressors/expanders/gates should be able to maintain equal peak gain while adjusting rms, that is the whole point of a compressor. if your compressor cant do that, throw it out because its broken!
but god man, use the gain control!
i think he was talking more about nonsence than that though, since even a compressor like mine works beautifully to do that. he should try my compressor and tell if that is what he is talking about though... i doubt he would like it.
all compressors/expanders/gates should be able to maintain equal peak gain while adjusting rms, that is the whole point of a compressor. if your compressor cant do that, throw it out because its broken!
- KVRAF
- 25049 posts since 12 Jul, 2003 from West Caprazumia
well, mate - you can't start a thread to slag off what we're all using daily (so you are actually insulting us if you think about itwsaidah wrote:deleted
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- KVRian
- 1358 posts since 15 Oct, 2005 from The Far North
I think we're seeing (yet another) case of someone who's seriously lacking in communication skills, ie having trouble functioning in a verbal-only conversation context. Or maybe he's just a dumbass
Either way, stay off forums!
Either way, stay off forums!
- KVRAF
- 12615 posts since 7 Dec, 2004
voxengo stinks and is for preppy losers!
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actually i think he either just didnt know what he was talking about or didnt know how to say it. no need to get all defensive about what you "use". i happen to think most compressors software or hardware gulp dinks too. doesnt mean i imply that users of those compressors are gulpers of dinks, nor do i imply verified dink gulping individuals use said compressors. dont take it personally, the meaning behind the words no matter which words is abstract.
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actually i think he either just didnt know what he was talking about or didnt know how to say it. no need to get all defensive about what you "use". i happen to think most compressors software or hardware gulp dinks too. doesnt mean i imply that users of those compressors are gulpers of dinks, nor do i imply verified dink gulping individuals use said compressors. dont take it personally, the meaning behind the words no matter which words is abstract.
- KVRAF
- 12615 posts since 7 Dec, 2004
infact i suggest rather than reply plainly to such comments, people should instead come up with audio to express themselves.
for example i could say the thread starter and many of those who replied are whining sniveling babies, but instead i posted some audio showing;
1) my compressor does that what was said software does not and can not do, irrefutably asserting that the oposite is true
2) what compressed whining sniveling babies on acid sound like
for example i could say the thread starter and many of those who replied are whining sniveling babies, but instead i posted some audio showing;
1) my compressor does that what was said software does not and can not do, irrefutably asserting that the oposite is true
2) what compressed whining sniveling babies on acid sound like

