KVR Audio

Gregjazz · Post by **Gregjazz** » Thu Feb 07, 2008 7:37 am

It's working in Sonar 7 PE. Pretty nice way of getting some inspiration. I love their suggested chords, it can be a good way to progress if you get stuck when composing.

gnu23 · Post by **gnu23** » Thu Feb 07, 2008 12:09 pm

Gregjazz wrote:It's working in Sonar 7 PE. Pretty nice way of getting some inspiration. I love their suggested chords, it can be a good way to progress if you get stuck when composing.

Greg, could you post the basics of what you did - meaning how you set it up (the MIDI connection particulars). I'd like to try to replicate your steps in Sonar 6 PE (what I currently use). Thanks!

Alien Leg · Post by **Alien Leg** » Fri Feb 08, 2008 3:41 pm

I'd to know how deep I can structure the rhythm of the harmonies? This seems to be an important criterion to me, as harmonies played with prestructured rhythms are not very usable.

I also would be interested in a comparison to harmony navigator. AFAIK I can't structure the rhythms in this program, but are some similarities to the improvisator. Would be cool if someone who knows both could say something about it.

jonathan.sb · Post by **jonathan.sb** » Fri Feb 08, 2008 9:05 pm

@gnu23:
I have found out why energyXT would not load the plugin. The main() function of VSTs of the SDK version 2.4 export "VSTPluginMain()" instead of main(). EnergyXT looks for the old main. Now Improvisator exports that as well for downward compatibility.
Please give me your email adress to mail you a version which should work. If we should not get it to work I will refund you the money of course.

@Alien Leg:
You can structure the rhythm of the harmonies absolutely freely by triggering the voices of the chord independently with the notes CDEF from your host project. I think the best way for you to get a detailed opinion may be to have a look into the manual on www.improvisator.de/en

Best regards,
Jonathan

stanlea · Post by **stanlea** » Fri Feb 08, 2008 10:02 pm

Hi Jonathan

Will you profide a demo version ? I think it would be great to try the features of Improvisator.

gnu23 · Post by **gnu23** » Sat Feb 09, 2008 3:59 am

jonathan.sb wrote:@gnu23:
I have found out why energyXT would not load the plugin. The main() function of VSTs of the SDK version 2.4 export "VSTPluginMain()" instead of main(). EnergyXT looks for the old main. Now Improvisator exports that as well for downward compatibility.
Please give me your email adress to mail you a version which should work. If we should not get it to work I will refund you the money of course.

Best regards,
Jonathan

PM sent Jonathan. Thank you very much for taking a look at the problem. No worries about a refund. I like what you are doing and have no problem working with you by reporting any problems I find in Improvisator.

spuddle · Post by **spuddle** » Sat Feb 09, 2008 7:23 am

stanlea wrote:Hi Jonathan

Will you profide a demo version ? I think it would be great to try the features of Improvisator.

+1 I would like to test the compatibility of this plug-in before handing over my hard earned monies!

You might want to consider releasing a stripped down "free" version that offered limited voices or some other little restriction. KVR loves that sort of thing and you'd probably generate more sales in the end so consider the extra effort as good marketing

disturb · Post by **disturb** » Sat Feb 09, 2008 1:48 pm

yup, demo please !

spitboxer · Post by **spitboxer** » Sat Feb 09, 2008 9:33 pm

a couple quick questions...does this have more then 1 midi out? and if yes, can you route each voice to a separate midi #?

jonathan.sb · Post by **jonathan.sb** » Sun Feb 10, 2008 9:31 am

Hi spitboxer,

this is exactly what will come in Version 1.1. But presently you only have one Midi output.

Best,
Jonathan

disturb · Post by **disturb** » Sun Feb 10, 2008 12:18 pm

jonathan.sb wrote:Hi spitboxer,

this is exactly what will come in Version 1.1. But presently you only have one Midi output.

Best,
Jonathan

the next release will be vst3 ?

and i take it there will be no demo then ?

jonathan.sb · Post by **jonathan.sb** » Sun Feb 10, 2008 1:01 pm

Hello,

the demo version is availible now. It will be updated like the full version.

@disturb:
Maybe it will be a VST3, its not sure yet...

disturb · Post by **disturb** » Sun Feb 10, 2008 1:43 pm

thanks for the demo jonathan, this looks impressive, 3 clicks before nag seems a bit tight, but better than nothing eh

anyway, i was only mentionning vst3 because i thought you implied the next version would have several midi output ports ; but i don't think you'll find many people pressuring you down that road for now though...

cheers

disturb · Post by **disturb** » Sun Feb 10, 2008 2:19 pm

i can't seem to add chords to the harmonic progression lane, no matter which mode is selected, is this a demo limitation or am i missing something?

Hink · Post by **Hink** » Sun Feb 10, 2008 5:21 pm

jancivil wrote:
nuffink wrote:
jancivil wrote:sure, and it's useful to make such a thing, I get all that.

but, look. the point, is that depending on a tool to figure out harmonic relationships for you

[or, to 'make beats' for you, instead of getting some rhythm together WITH YOUR HANDS]

jebus, to 'improvise' for you (please)

versus doing the work

!) makes you soft, pretty soon, you've no muscle to draw from your own self
2) this lack of chops tells on itself REAL quick with the music
3) you get everyone and his momma thinks they are 'producers' and a glut on a market which once upon er time kinda sorta required the services of musicians

and you get this music that truly is worthless all over the place, in an unprecedented degree, and no one says boo.

now, this is a historical process, which I pointed to with the HG Wells reference, and is probably inevitable.

But you can choose to recognize it, or not.
There is an alternative. You can embrace the tools that are developed and use them to produce great music.
Yours is exactly the same sad little rant that "proper" musicians have used about new technology since the year dot.
It could be used wholesale (as doubtless you have) against samplers and drum machines. Which you presumably blame for much of the "worthless" music around.
no, man, I use samplers (kontakt 2, and BFD) almost exclusively in the tracks I post here, which you might check out, because they sound Real Enough, and that's down to having the chops to do it, which takes doing the work,

it's not a rant, it's an argument; yours ("...doubtless you have") might be a rant. OR an excuse to pick a fight, in which case try HPC.

anyway, if one reads what I wrote, it is clear enough that I blame what I believe to be crap music proliferation on an unprecedented scale to the attitudes of people who believe that machines will allow them to avoid the process of standing on their own two feet.

I did say, 'it is useful to make such a thing', with the implication: as per a learning tool.

as a tool to 'improvise' for you, that's the most suspect thing I've heard in a long time.

you both make very good points, one has to wonder if when the industrial revelution came about if furniture makers, clothing makers, potters ect all had similar questions. The thing is though, here in the year 2008 there is a market for both sides (craftsman vs. mass/machine produced).