Magix drop Samplitude dongle...

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BTW if you use Yellow Tools Independence Pro 2.1 it even allows you to host VSTi's inside that application :)

http://www.yellowtools.us/cp21/cms/index.php?id=794

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original flipper wrote: BTW, I think an 8 VST limit is a bit of a killer for such an expensive host.
I think the limits are not justified at that price point but all the same afaik this is 8 VST's per track - not a major problem and I would tend to be using KORE or Bidule to chain stuff for most things anyway.

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IMO, such a price for the limited version is almost arrogant.

You can get the whole Logic Studio for less than that, and even Logic Express isn't crippled in any practical sense.

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Kraznet wrote:
BTW, I think an 8 VST limit is a bit of a killer for such an expensive host.
Maybe if you using individual single output synths yes . But you can assign multiple outputs per VSTi . So for example you can have 16 outs for Kontakt or the like . So 16 x 8 gives you 128 tracks of Kontakt . Also you could also freeze the VSTi if you need to add another Synth past the 8 limit .

Regards
Kraznet
This is simply not practice workflow for a large number of potential customers.

I don't do much electronic music, but when I do, quickly moving back and forth between 10+ synths is not at all uncommon. Even being primarily a rock musician/recordist I would feel very limited by 8 VSTi's.

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aMUSEd wrote:
original flipper wrote: BTW, I think an 8 VST limit is a bit of a killer for such an expensive host.
I think the limits are not justified at that price point but all the same afaik this is 8 VST's per track - not a major problem and I would tend to be using KORE or Bidule to chain stuff for most things anyway.
Ah I reread it - it's 8 plugins per insert but only the ones that come with Samp - for VSTi's it's 8 per project - that does suck unless you're using a chainer.

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Anyway, how is a samplitude as a VSTi/fx host? I always had the impression that it's better as an audio DAW?

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I had the free SE version 9 on my system before I reinstalled my system and it managed well enough though it had no freeze (I'm told it has a great freeze in the other versions).

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spritex wrote:IMO, such a price for the limited version is almost arrogant.

You can get the whole Logic Studio for less than that, and even Logic Express isn't crippled in any practical sense.
They seem to be a bit too proud of their software, IMO. I purshased version 7 a few years back and refused to pay the upgrade price after that. Upgrades were nearly twice what other DAW makers charge. Samplitude your good but not THAT good (imho) :wink:
Cap'n Spanky
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original flipper wrote:HI

It's unfortunate that as one company drops using a dongle another takes it up: LinPlug.

Flipper.
Didn't Linplug used to be the darling of the VSTi market? IMO, they have the tech expertise; no idea how to run a business. However, this is typical in most Internet-based ventures.
I've got nothing to sell...am I on the right site?

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They're obviously going for the impulse buy. But that price for a stripped down version of the stripped down version? :-o

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Cap'n Spanky wrote:
spritex wrote:IMO, such a price for the limited version is almost arrogant.

You can get the whole Logic Studio for less than that, and even Logic Express isn't crippled in any practical sense.
They seem to be a bit too proud of their software, IMO. I purshased version 7 a few years back and refused to pay the upgrade price after that. Upgrades were nearly twice what other DAW makers charge. Samplitude your good but not THAT good (imho) :wink:
Yes a great product but not *that* good. I think it costs £200 a year to upgrade from the latest Samp Pro version to the next. I think it has easily the most expensive upgrade path compared to it's closest rivals feature wise(Cubase, Sonar, Logic).

Logic studio bundled with Soundtrack Pro 2 can be had for as little as £150 or less on Ebay...*new*.

I would be very happy to have a copy of Samp but either Magix cannot afford to drop the price to a more competitive level or they *can* afford to perhaps get the bulk of their income from their consumer level products and maintain or even increase the upgrade price for samplitude Pro.

A few years ago it was about £150 - £170 (every 18 months or so) it's £200 every year now. Far too pricey IMO. But it remains a great product just not competitive price wise with similar products.

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HobbyCore wrote:If it were on mac, I'd be there in a heartbeat.
Bootcamp.

Greg
Don't ask me, I just play here.

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spritex wrote:Anyway, how is a samplitude as a VSTi/fx host? I always had the impression that it's better as an audio DAW?
excellent as a VST host.
I've never had a concern.

Greg
Don't ask me, I just play here.

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Kraznet wrote:Just to clarify this is NOT Samplitude Pro . It's based on Samplitude 10 (formerly known as Samplitude Classic) which is limted to to 64 stereo/mono tracks with 8 plug ins per insert and 8 VSTi's per project . Also it's limited to 8 submix and 6 auxbusses .However it allows sample rates up to 384khz and 32 bit float including rendering at 16/24/32bit and is is octo-core optimized (Unlike Samplitude Music Studio) It also includes the full version of Variverb and the Vinage FX Suite but lacks Ammunition and the Analog Modelling Suite. It also includes the HQ timestretch/pitchshift algo .You can use it for 30 days without a serial and theres no intrusive cp . For anyone wanting to get a taste of Samplitude it seems like a good deal to me .

Regards
Kraznet

PS It also includes the Audio Quantize engine , sidechaining plus full track and object automation .
IT's a good deal!

Greg
Don't ask me, I just play here.

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