KVR Mix Workshop - Week 3: Kick and Bass
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- KVRist
- 393 posts since 13 Jan, 2007
Shouldn't that be Spinedoc, instead of ngarjuna, or did I miss something?Kim (esoundz) wrote:Cordelia's version and Ngarjuna's version are now available!
-Kim.
Both Ngarjuna links load the same file.
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 4692 posts since 28 Jan, 2003 from In these very interwebs
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 4692 posts since 28 Jan, 2003 from In these very interwebs
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- KVRer
- 22 posts since 8 Dec, 2005
Hi Kim,
first I wanna thank you for this awesome workshop. I noticed it when you were already a couple of weeks into it, so I didn't take officialy part in it.
But I worked quite a bit on the song now for the last weeks, following your advice and also trying out other ways and slowly it's all falling into place.
But one thing I'm having much trouble with is getting the kick and bass right.
It's either a bit too boomy or muddy or otherwise just doesn't feel completely right and is slighty out of balance.
My question is, is it generally ok to highpass kick and/or bass, as you never read about that or do you have any other tips to get the lowend under control? Thanks so far and I hope you decide to do the electronic workshop, which I'm hoping to take part in.
first I wanna thank you for this awesome workshop. I noticed it when you were already a couple of weeks into it, so I didn't take officialy part in it.
But I worked quite a bit on the song now for the last weeks, following your advice and also trying out other ways and slowly it's all falling into place.
But one thing I'm having much trouble with is getting the kick and bass right.
It's either a bit too boomy or muddy or otherwise just doesn't feel completely right and is slighty out of balance.
My question is, is it generally ok to highpass kick and/or bass, as you never read about that or do you have any other tips to get the lowend under control? Thanks so far and I hope you decide to do the electronic workshop, which I'm hoping to take part in.
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 4692 posts since 28 Jan, 2003 from In these very interwebs
You shouldn't need to highpass the kick or bass. If they're boomy, you need to think about where you're focussing their energy. Keep in mind that an excess build up of bass can sounds exciting in the studio, even though it's not appropriate for the song. Knowing how to make good judgements about the level and focus of bass energy is largely a function of knowing your monitoring arrangement (speakers and room mainly). If you're in doubt, have a listen to commercial releases of similar songs.dangermouse wrote:But one thing I'm having much trouble with is getting the kick and bass right.
It's either a bit too boomy or muddy or otherwise just doesn't feel completely right and is slighty out of balance.
My question is, is it generally ok to highpass kick and/or bass, as you never read about that or do you have any other tips to get the lowend under control? Thanks so far and I hope you decide to do the electronic workshop, which I'm hoping to take part in.
Let me know how that works out for you.
-Kim.
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- KVRer
- 22 posts since 8 Dec, 2005
Thanks Kim. Did remix it today and I got a lot closer to how I want it, but
I'm still not happy with the bass. What do you mean with focusing their energy? Boosting and cutting? I think my main problem is that I can hear there's something wrong, but I don't know what to do about it
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You don't happen to feel like listening to my mix?
I'm still not happy with the bass. What do you mean with focusing their energy? Boosting and cutting? I think my main problem is that I can hear there's something wrong, but I don't know what to do about it
.You don't happen to feel like listening to my mix?
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 4692 posts since 28 Jan, 2003 from In these very interwebs
Focussing the energy is about boosting and cutting with EQ in the same way driving a car is about turning the steering wheel and pressing the pedals.dangermouse wrote:What do you mean with focusing their energy? Boosting and cutting?
EQ is the the primary method for doing it, but the EQ is what happens when you already know what you want to do. The main work is in your ears and in your head - listening to the sounds and making s judgement about how they need to be shaped in a way that's appropriate to the mix and the song.
This is a good start! Now, listen closer...dangermouse wrote:I think my main problem is that I can hear there's something wrong, but I don't know what to do about it
Give yourself another shot at it. If you're still not quite there, email me at kvr-workshop at kimlajoie dot com and I'll have a listen to it.dangermouse wrote:You don't happen to feel like listening to my mix?
-Kim.