KVR Audio

Aroused by JarJar · Post by **Aroused by JarJar** » Tue Jan 06, 2009 6:57 pm

afreshcupofjoe wrote:
afreshcupofjoe wrote:
Aroused by JarJar wrote: Say- since "cold" and "warm" are at least partly subjective, would you consider this sound:

http://dl.kibla.org/dl.php?filename=Sil ... 4285p7.WAV

"cold""? Just curious (comparing synaesthesia experiences).
Nope, far too warm for my tastes. Probably needs metallic reverb.
Here, it's a good bit colder now:

http://www.speedyshare.com/669591233.html

...but it still needs something, maybe a more piercing attack?

Yes, it's certainly colder with the reverb. It didn't have any FX, just straight out of the synth, and for my synaethesia (everyone is somewhat but not completely different I find) it's not really cold, but more "silver", kind of dusty.

I think you're right about the attack- it doesn't need to be harder (it's very firm) but more piercing as you say. Maybe layered with a higher nonharmonic sound that sweeps slightly upward in pitch, then out into a big cold reverb.

By the way that's discrete analog.

afreshcupofjoe · Post by **afreshcupofjoe** » Tue Jan 06, 2009 6:59 pm

Liquidclear wrote:Convert to low bitrate MP3 and back

I never thought of mp3 artifacts as being particularly cold. They sound more like a basket of chipmunks gurgling banana smoothie. ...Whoa!!! I just had a bit of an acid flashback. Actually, I think it was a mushroom flashback. Yup, definitely psilocybin.

Meffy · Post by **Meffy** » Tue Jan 06, 2009 7:01 pm

afreshcupofjoe wrote:
Meffy wrote:Drink a hot, fresh cup of joe and they'll seem colder by comparison.
Ironically, I quite drinking coffee a few months ago after being a hardcore caffeine addict for most of my life. It was making my nerves ragged. Now I'm a tea man. (still caffeinated, but far less so) If I could change my alias, I would. :tu:

What, afreshcupofchai? Doesn't have the same ring, to tell the truth. You could privately redefine "joe" to include tea...?

Meffy · Post by **Meffy** » Tue Jan 06, 2009 7:02 pm

afreshcupofjoe wrote:a basket of chipmunks gurgling banana smoothie

Ah. So you've seen the mechanism for mp3 encoding.

afreshcupofjoe · Post by **afreshcupofjoe** » Tue Jan 06, 2009 7:07 pm

Meffy wrote:
afreshcupofjoe wrote:
Meffy wrote:Drink a hot, fresh cup of joe and they'll seem colder by comparison.
Ironically, I quite drinking coffee a few months ago after being a hardcore caffeine addict for most of my life. It was making my nerves ragged. Now I'm a tea man. (still caffeinated, but far less so) If I could change my alias, I would.
What, afreshcupofchai? Doesn't have the same ring, to tell the truth. You could privately redefine "joe" to include tea...?

Christ Maffy, Chai???? Really???? Do you think I'm that much of a hipster? I might as well buy a Macbook and start riding around on a Vespa if I'm going to drink that crap.

Meffy · Post by **Meffy** » Tue Jan 06, 2009 7:09 pm

It's ALL chai. Just the original name for the stuff. Even Lipton in a little filter-paper bag.

Hot low-pass filter-paper.

Besides, chai sounds pretty much like joe.

afreshcupofjoe · Post by **afreshcupofjoe** » Tue Jan 06, 2009 7:10 pm

Meffy wrote:
afreshcupofjoe wrote:a basket of chipmunks gurgling banana smoothie
Ah. So you've seen the mechanism for mp3 encoding.

If it was attached to a large rotating geometric orb that was hovering above the field I was lying in, then... yes.

Liquidclear · Post by **Liquidclear** » Tue Jan 06, 2009 7:11 pm

afreshcupofjoe wrote:
Liquidclear wrote:Convert to low bitrate MP3 and back
I never thought of mp3 artifacts as being particularly cold. They sound more like a basket of chipmunks gurgling banana smoothie. ...Whoa!!! I just had a bit of an acid flashback. Actually, I think it was a mushroom flashback. Yup, definitely psilocybin.

Nice visual

Here's a tip that might actually not induce flashbacks....make lots of space in between instruments with surgical precion - don't let frequencies overlap, eq everything tightly, maybe add a nice metallic verb. Perform with 'cold' in mind...be exact and minimal in your arrangements.

afreshcupofjoe · Post by **afreshcupofjoe** » Tue Jan 06, 2009 7:15 pm

Meffy wrote:It's ALL chai. Just the original name for the stuff. Even Lipton in a little filter-paper bag.

Hot low-pass filter-paper.

Besides, chai sounds pretty much like joe.

:scrambles to wikipedia:

Huh... so it's China's fault. Learn something new every day.

Dean Aka Nekro · Post by **Dean Aka Nekro** » Tue Jan 06, 2009 7:19 pm

Aroused by JarJar wrote:
NEKRO.MACHINE wrote:Smash it over 0dbfs and do not limit, add the most nasty metalic reverb you have and brootally boost all around 1k-7k; Until its skin turns blue
Isn't that what people who go on and on about "warm" and "vintage" do?

Say- since "cold" and "warm" are at least partly subjective, would you consider this sound:

http://dl.kibla.org/dl.php?filename=Sil ... 4285p7.WAV

"cold""? Just curious (comparing synaesthesia experiences).

Aroused by JarJar: i really do not know friend and my post was to be taken with a pinch of salt but also could work to make something sound "Colder" (or to some doing that could make something sound "Warm")

The Bell Tone: Not to my ears, i really like bell like sounds actually because of the 'clarity' they always seem to possess

Here is a beat i put together about 6/7 months ago using ableton's DrumRack and i used a bell type tone in their as i really liked it, let me know what you think:

http://www.mediafire.com/file/fjhnjjjhaj4/Nekro Unkonventional Beat 2 100 BP.wav

Lotuzia · Post by **Lotuzia** » Tue Jan 06, 2009 7:22 pm

for gold, or sold or even bald I would have had answers.

But cold ...........

No, can't see ....

(I like bald mixes ....)

sophtrazor · Post by **sophtrazor** » Tue Jan 06, 2009 7:25 pm

This is the greatest Question so far - Who needs analog "warmth" its overrated any way... LOL

Jafo · Post by **Jafo** » Tue Jan 06, 2009 7:46 pm

Quantize the midi data, as well as set all velocity and duration parameters the same; pro-tool the audio into perfect conformity and compress all dynamic range out of it. Resample to a lower bit depth and/or sampling frequency. Use an Audigy card -- better yet, record the audio output of one soundcard into another. Compress and limit the bass frequencies with a linear phase device, and make sure that they never become prominent. Get some random tarnce or crunk guy to master it. That should get you in the ballpark.

(This thread rocks!)

TOTAL · Post by **TOTAL** » Tue Jan 06, 2009 9:56 pm

Generally beware whatever LEADS to:

or fat BASS you see he is hot (the slight wet spot on tha pants crack).

ZenPunkHippy · Post by **ZenPunkHippy** » Tue Jan 06, 2009 10:29 pm

afreshcupofjoe wrote:How do I make my digital recordings colder? They are just too warm for my tastes. I've tried big icy reverbs like glaceverb, but it's just not cold enough. I want it to feel like sleeping in an ice cave when listening to my music

Maybe Linda Bot (the Ice Queen!) can help you out - it's time she gave something back to the community that made her.

I suggest you PM her.

Peace,
Andy.