Can We Start the Hype Now?????? StudioPhonik!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Rycast]

I'm definitely still excited about Studiophonik, but c'mon, it's July now... Wasn't it slated for April when the Group Buy came out? And for last year, before the Group Buy?

I joined the Group Buy for the full plug-in, not for "Prelude" sounds to be used with SampleTank (which I don't own, and don't care to).

For me, I buy whatever products serve my musical creativity and that's all I am concerned about.

Me, too. And I've been in need of some high-end "rock" sounds. So I recently ended up buying Ministry of Rock. Which really rocks, by the way. Someone will probably edit my post to remove the product name. Whatever. But I didn't see any point in buying SampleTank to be able to just use the Prelude sounds when I knew I would be getting the full Studiophonik plug-in eventually, anyway. Especially since I don't really have any interest in the other SampleTank add-ons - just the other full plug-ins like Philharmonik, which don't require SampleTank.

Don't get me wrong. I'm sure Studiophonik will rock, too, and I plan to use both it and MOR... some day.

[dachilles]

The bridge in Brooklyn is still for sale! Get in on the GROUP BUY while more excuses are prepared.

What a load of crap! just more hype and promise with a no show in the wings.

[buscemi]

Someone will probably edit my post to remove the product name. Whatever.

I don't think I've ever seen a competing product edited out of someone's post in this forum and I certainly won't do it. It is blatant trashing of vendors SR/esoundz sells that get the warnings and even then I don't think I've seen edits there. I'm biased but I think SR mods are quite friendly and not like that at all.

Squids can answer the other issues/comments/concerns as he is the official SR rep.

[Rycast]

I don't think I've ever seen a competing product edited out of someone's post in this forum and I certainly won't do it. It is blatant trashing of vendors SR/esoundz sells that get the warnings and even then I don't think I've seen edits there. I'm biased but I think SR mods are quite friendly and not like that at all.

Oh, well that's cool. I wasn't sure - I know some companies have policies where you can't even mention a competing product.

SR does seem to be really friendly and open. And I don't mean to be impatient or pushy about the release date. I guess I'm just not a patient person.

Happy 4th, everybody! Well, I guess it's the 5th now... I'm up late.

[Squids]

Yeah, it isn't that you can't mention another company's product in here. Go ahead. It is when someone is advertising another company's product with links etc that it sometimes gets edited by a mod.

Anyway, nothing wrong with being anxious about it. We're glad you are and we're sorry it hasn't come out sooner or exactly as originally planned. It has been an odd situation and one that was difficult to get just right between SR and IK. Hard to explain really and I don't want to be just full of "excuses". It is what it is. IK wants to release it a certain way and it requires more on our part to make that happen. It's not the same as us just releasing it (which is what we did with Prelude which, btw IS most of Studiophonik anyway - just some more drums and a few other sounds and patches - the engine was going to be the same as SampleTank with a different face so you might as well just use SampleTank. I can't say much but eventually there will be another way of making SampleTank modules).

I will let you guys know some concrete release dates when I know them. If I haven't said anything in here then that means it is not officially set yet. But it should be soon.

[buscemi]

Thanks for the honest response, Squids. I hope StudioPhonik is as good as [mod edit].

[ten2one]

[quote="Squids"]...Prelude which, btw IS most of Studiophonik anyway - just some more drums and a few other sounds and patches"

Squids,

I saw an ad that gives this description of Studiophonik:

With a focus mainly on guitars, bass and drums with the addition of some choice pianos, organs and a full horn section sampled by world class sound developer Sonic Reality, Studiophonik offers more variety of different key band instruments than any other sound module."

And

"Create a virtual band in the studio with the authentic sound of almost any era, from the 60's through today! Because of the intense focus on rock, pop and jazz ensemble instruments like guitar, bass, drums, keys and horns, Studiophonik's 2 DVD, 7GB sound set offers the widest range of "character instruments". These include instrument brands used by famous recording and performing artists throughout the 60's, 70's, 80's to today."

This sounds like quite a bit more than "some more drums and a few other sounds and patches"!

You may not be able to reveal the specifics right now but could you give us a heads up if these instruments are going to be included and will it amount to 7 gb of sounds?

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[BERFAB]

Yeah, it isn't that you can't mention another company's product in here. Go ahead. It is when someone is advertising another company's product with links etc that it sometimes gets edited by a mod.

Plus, 9 times out of 10, Squids does the sounds for that other company's product too!

[zedd]

...Prelude which, btw IS most of Studiophonik anyway - just some more drums and a few other sounds and patches...

I sure hope that this isn't exactly true. There's some great stuff in Prelude, but not really all that much in terms of content. I've been hoping for a nice heap of additional guitars and stuff. I definitely love the concept of being able to mix between different pickups and amp settings without resorting to the IK effects. It gives a nice raw tone to work with, and I have been experimenting with reAmping (i.e. feeding the tones into a real guitar amplifier and micing the result).

Come to think of it, you could actually use this technique to create some interesting new Studiophonik instruments by reprocessing some of the best guitar sounds you have previously sampled for SampleTank, Sonik Synth, and your other guitar volumes, and give them some new tonal possibilities (while also beefing up the content of Studiophonik).

But I know you're already treading water with all the stuff you have on your plate.

I can't say much but eventually there will be another way of making SampleTank modules

I do like the sounds of that. I hope that this will also include the ability to have several sample library sources, so that folders of samples which are not being used by a module will not automatically be loaded when opening a project. Even on my 8-core Intel Mac it is SampleTank which slows down the opening process by about 15 seconds.

But then again... it helps me practise my patience.

[Squids]

Well, basically Studiophonik is going to be three libraries - Drums, Guitar and Bass. The ads that talked about other things like pianos etc are really old! We changed it to just a guitar/bass/drums module and then to just the ST libraries. As I said (or hinted) there will be a future update that will make more sense to you why it isn't its own skinned ST module as originally planned but since I can't talk about it yet all I can say is that for now it is just the sounds.

The Prelude sounds, as I said, were most of the sounds for it and it is quite large too! There are some more drums, guitars and basses which will be free to all who joined the old Prelude GB. If there ever was its own GUI you could have that too but... what's coming is better than just a cosmetic thing let's just say.

[ten2one]

[quote="Squids"]The ads that talked about other things like pianos etc are really old!

Squids,

I just wanted you to know I got that information from a major website today! It may be an old ad but they are presenting the Studiophonic package as an upcoming release with all the things I quoted in my last post.

I just wanted you to know I didn't dig something up from last year!

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[Squids]

The ads that talked about other things like pianos etc are really old!

Squids,

I just wanted you to know I got that information from a major website today! It may be an old ad but they are presenting the Studiophonic package as an upcoming release with all the things I quoted in my last post.

I just wanted you to know I didn't dig something up from last year!

1021

Well, it was old information that maybe a web site has mistakenly put up recently perhaps. Which web site?

[ten2one]

The ads that talked about other things like pianos etc are really old!

Squids,

I just wanted you to know I got that information from a major website today! It may be an old ad but they are presenting the Studiophonic package as an upcoming release with all the things I quoted in my last post.

I just wanted you to know I didn't dig something up from last year!

1021

Well, it was old information that maybe a web site has mistakenly put up recently perhaps. Which web site?

Squids,

I found it today on Sweetwater's site. Maybe that's where I got it that there would be a piano's and a horn section with Studiophonic. I recall some discussion during the gb that the 3 instruments we received were to let us get acquainted with Studiophonic and that there would be additional instruments soon.

I understand how your involvement with IK limits what you can do at times and that things change, but I was somewhat concerned about the, "a few more drums and some patches" comment. It came across to me as though you were saying there would be some token sounds and patches coming but nothing special. I'm sure you didn't mean it that way! I hope!!!

I think I've detected some frustration that you've experienced with this particular package as well, though I'm sure you are not at liberty to discuss your feelings.I think Studiophonic was a pet project that you've been trying to get done for several years and I'm sure the way it has gone is not to pleasing for you as well.

I think some of those who participated in the gb are a little frustrated too, but I might add that you and your company have always went above and beyond to make your products, sales and support an excellent experience.


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[buscemi]

I think some of those who participated in the gb are a little frustrated too, but I might add that you and your company have always went above and beyond to make your products, sales and support an excellent experience.

Perhaps the GB participants could be frustrated based on the delays on Studiophonik but they shouldn't be on the basis of included instruments. Squids made it clear what the altered scope of Studiophonik's included instruments during the group buy. Unfortunately those Market Place threads are deleted after a certain amount of time.

If you alert someone at IK (Andrew is a member here), they could contact Sweetwater to change the incorrect description.

[ten2one]

Perhaps the GB participants could be frustrated based on the delays on Studiophonik but they shouldn't be on the basis of included instruments. Squids made it clear what the altered scope of Studiophonik's included instruments during the group buy. Unfortunately those Market Place threads are deleted after a certain amount of time.

If you alert someone at IK (Andrew is a member here), they could contact Sweetwater to change the incorrect description.

Buscemi,

I appreciate your concern.

The gb was several months ago so I can't remember what the last thing said about its content was. I do know that the particulars have changed in several of the gb as new or additional options and things were added (all to our benefit I might add). But if you could list what the altered scope of Studiophonic is I would greatly appreciate it.

I've spent about $1,000.00 (which probably isn't much compared to some others) with esoundz within the past 10 months and every penny was well spent. If I thought the company was untrustworthy I could have found plenty of other places to spend it. I think it provides the biggest bang for the buck you can find today!

I don't think I'm the one to contact IK because I don't represent SR and wouldn't want to cause any unnecessary problems. I would suppose that Sweetwater got its information from IK concerning the contents of Studiophonic, but maybe not, I don't know.

If I came across as questioning the integrity of Squids or the company, I apologize, that was not my intent. I'm just a guy who bought something, can't remember what it was exactly, saw an ad, asked a question, and not sure what I'm going to get!


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