Nebula is the cab sim holy grail.

[AeternusEternus]

Yo yo yo!

Just reporting back in to say:

HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO ME

And also, there are lots of programs available from me now. I can pump them out pretty quickly now, I got it down to a science. All I need now is gear, haha.

I'm convinced, guys. There's no going back. I'm never micing a cab again.

[Bevoss]

Nice going AeternusEternus! I only just noticed this today, looks you've got the sampling up to the right quality now. Well done!

Is someone new to sampling (eg me!) wanted to sample their cabs, could they just use your cs2-session? Or would they have to do the whole sampling tutorial?

The info is so spread out at the moment, I'm hoping someone can consolidate it into an easy tutorial.

[AeternusEternus]

Nice going AeternusEternus! I only just noticed this today, looks you've got the sampling up to the right quality now. Well done!

Is someone new to sampling (eg me!) wanted to sample their cabs, could they just use your cs2-session? Or would they have to do the whole sampling tutorial?

The info is so spread out at the moment, I'm hoping someone can consolidate it into an easy tutorial.

I do encourage sampling your own stuff, and using CS2 is the best way to do it right now. But, if you're going to do it, I would advise sampling other things first to get used to the process. It's easy to forget to disconnect your monitors or heaphones, or to forget to enable the "record" button. Since sampling your cabs is very loud, I'd do something quiet first.

I'll be providing a more in-depth tutorial for how to do it, I just gotta find some free time first!

[rexxz]

I've read through your thread on UM... I'm incredibly interested in this. Any idea when this will be public?

[AeternusEternus]

I've read through your thread on UM... I'm incredibly interested in this. Any idea when this will be public?

Now! You just have to get a copy of Nebula and download the programs I've made.

[rexxz]

Oh, I was just wondering because I've been reading about beta and whatnot... so it's fully available and fully functional? I'll investigate more!

[Bevoss]

I do encourage sampling your own stuff, and using CS2 is the best way to do it right now. But, if you're going to do it, I would advise sampling other things first to get used to the process. It's easy to forget to disconnect your monitors or heaphones, or to forget to enable the "record" button. Since sampling your cabs is very loud, I'd do something quiet first.

I'll be providing a more in-depth tutorial for how to do it, I just gotta find some free time first!

Thanks for that Aeternus, I've done the Nat3 quickstart/loopback tutorial, next I'll do that loopback test on nebula-programs.com. Then if I recall it's a wet hardware reverb test. Who do you get to check this stuff is correct, or is that only for beta testers?

If you have any links to tutorials you've gone through, can you post them here please? Cheers for the effort man.

[AeternusEternus]

I do encourage sampling your own stuff, and using CS2 is the best way to do it right now. But, if you're going to do it, I would advise sampling other things first to get used to the process. It's easy to forget to disconnect your monitors or heaphones, or to forget to enable the "record" button. Since sampling your cabs is very loud, I'd do something quiet first.

I'll be providing a more in-depth tutorial for how to do it, I just gotta find some free time first!

Thanks for that Aeternus, I've done the Nat3 quickstart/loopback tutorial, next I'll do that loopback test on nebula-programs.com. Then if I recall it's a wet hardware reverb test. Who do you get to check this stuff is correct, or is that only for beta testers?

If you have any links to tutorials you've gone through, can you post them here please? Cheers for the effort man.

For the double-check, I tend to just use my own ears. A lot of these tests were precautions. My original Nebula sampling runs had very harsh high frequencies that I just couldn't shake. I still don't know why they were there, maybe a bad preamp or something. But, the reason I tested my bypass loop was to make sure I had a flat frequency response, which I did, which is what you should be looking for. Then, testing a 100% wet reverb is done so you can see if you can sample something properly, honestly. The reason it's 100% and not 99% or lower is because if you sample and have any dry signal in your recorded tone, the end result will have a harsh high end to it like I was experiencing. I passed this test, too.

I'm going to be drawing up some tutorials tomorrow, so stay tuned. In the meantime, the process is a very easy.

1) Load NAT and with the microphone in place, check your offset in the audio settings. If it's stable, you're good to go.
2) Load Cab Session 2.
3a) If you're using the online sampler (it's just called the sampler, the process is referred to as online), set your program names and the category, and hit "sample." If the sound is unbearably loud, drop the gain down, then start over. It should play seven test tones and do everything automatically, including add it to your programs list.
3b) If you're using the offline sampler, load the offline window, and first uncheck the "sync" button if you have one. At the bottom, select a file name and location. This is going to be the test tone you generate. Then, generate the test tone using the button at the top. You can then load this test tone into whatever DAW you want, and record the test tone this way. Once you're done, export a mono wav file of the recording, the highest bit setting you can. I use 32 bit float. Then, go back into NAT, select the exported wav file, set your program names, and hit Deconvolve. All done.
4) Test it. If your program is quiet, you can change the Pad Out setting. Load the file, select Prog -> Edit -> Glob, and change Pad Out to whatever you want.

I'll be MUCH more specific tomorrow, but I'm exhausted right now. I created thirty programs today using a Universal Audio LA610 preamp, and used 5 mics total. You can download them from my website, www.myspoonistoobig.net

[Bevoss]

I found these instructions in the nat2 faq:

You need to read carefully instructions. There is a Quick Starting guide in the Download section.
When you have finished, you should read this faq completely.
You should make at least a couple of attempts before starting sampling serious gear.
We studied a learning path for you. If you don't follow our path, your questions will be not answered properly, or simply we'll not able to help you. We'll be stressed and our answers will be wrong. You'll damage other customers who are following our instructions.

1.3 What is the best learning path for me?

a) You should sample a software reverb, in offline mode.
b) You should sample an hardware reverb, in asio mode.
c) You should sample an hardware preamp, in asio mode.
d) You should sample a dynamic device (for example a tape), in asio mode.
e) You should sample a time variant, in offline mode
f) You should sample a time variant, in asio mode

A good starting point is a software reverb @ 44.100 Hz, with a short tail (less than 2 seconds), completely wet. If it turns out good, you are ready for the next step and so on. The sampling rate is very important, read point 2.7

1.4 But I'm not interested in sampling reverbs. I need the ultimate preamp.

Our learning path is mandatory. We find easily a mistake both in our application and in your setup. A software reverb is a piece of cake, an hardware time variant is not so easy. You should be sure you have a good results on every step before going on.

[mangel1234]

Congrats on the cab sampling success!

[Bevoss]

One question, how are you configuring the inputs/outputs in NAT?

Is it dual mono? (eg outputs L + R both CH5, inputs L+R both CH1) Or is there a mono option somewhere?

I sampled a wet stereo reverb ok, but I wasn't sure what the best method was for sampling a mono source (ie the cab).

[monsterbeetle]

Hi, just a simple question :

I'm using podfarm for metal tones. can nebula improve palm mutes if chained after podfarm's big bottom model (if I deactivate cab simulation in podfarm)?

When will the first nebula cab sample library actually come out ?

peace and thanks for the dedication you put into trying complex things like that!

[johnrrrrrr]

Please read this in Jest because its really more of a complaint on Nebula than anything.

Where the heck are clips?

Going through that thread is dealing with Nebula itself. Utter frustration, huge claims, no reward. Cant you give us a summary with the sound links to this incredible claim your making?

I heard some clips on page six that matched the real cab but the real cab sound sounded like an Solid state electric razor. Yes, I have a Tube razor :)Are there any clips of real guitar tone? Meaning the tone intended by the maker of the amp--not some extreme metal setting--because testing on harsh sounds and getting harsh sim sounds is not a good test. Go for smooth round fat distortion

[ccosta]

Please read this in Jest because its really more of a complaint on Nebula than anything.

Where the heck are clips?

Going through that thread is dealing with Nebula itself. Utter frustration, huge claims, no reward. Cant you give us a summary with the sound links to this incredible claim your making?

I heard some clips on page six that matched the real cab but the real cab sound sounded like an Solid state electric razor. Yes, I have a Tube razor :)Are there any clips of real guitar tone? Meaning the tone intended by the maker of the amp--not some extreme metal setting--because testing on harsh sounds and getting harsh sim sounds is not a good test. Go for smooth round fat distortion

Clips ?

http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=252524

[gavriloP]

Please read this in Jest because its really more of a complaint on Nebula than anything.

Where the heck are clips?

Going through that thread is dealing with Nebula itself. Utter frustration, huge claims, no reward. Cant you give us a summary with the sound links to this incredible claim your making?

I heard some clips on page six that matched the real cab but the real cab sound sounded like an Solid state electric razor. Yes, I have a Tube razor :)Are there any clips of real guitar tone? Meaning the tone intended by the maker of the amp--not some extreme metal setting--because testing on harsh sounds and getting harsh sim sounds is not a good test. Go for smooth round fat distortion

well, of course those were metal stuff but I was astounded how nice they sounded. 100x better than plain impulses. If you have Nebula you can check them yourself. Great stuff, I just used them with DI bass and even it was ok.

You have to remember that this was clearly proof of concept. Te programs could be much better with different amps, mics, rooms and technique but they were already very usable IMO.

And if you don't have Nebula, well too bad. But it is very cheap. And I have a feeling that soon there will be better programs to download.

BTW: huge thanks to you, AeternusEternus!!! This is next level.