OSC13 - Synth1 - Totolitoto Wins!

[Mac of BIOnighT]

Dwsel, personally I'd go with a c64 synth, the others may be too challenging to attract partecipants, imho...

[tattiemannie]

No probs mac! ...err ... Hmm nickname? real name? ... whatever you want to use !
... by the way, if you click the 4shared link in my sig below, there is an text file index of all OSC links .... like all the threads, previous OSC collections ... I keep it fairly up to date, just download it and you have all the links you should need if you're trying to track anything down.

Dwsel, I'll check out that synth before I think about what rules may need adjusting ... sounds interesting! .. I was trying to find a synth called Syntendo ... but it looks like its no longer available ... otherwose i would have sneaked it onto the list and drawn your attention to it! ... but looks like you've found something possibly very similar!

[hakey]

OTOH c64 might be too limiting and put off just as many people (esp. without delay and reverb).

I think the chiptune scene/sound is very much a marmite flavour; you either love it or loathe it (I'm in the latter camp - sorry).

[tattiemannie]

Permitted effects would be no delay, no reverb, no chorus (who had these ones at that time?), dynamics: waveshaper, compresor, limiter, expander (extra points for saturation/tape simulation effect ), time stretch/pitch shift just simple ones without formant treating (tape recorders had often fancy 'speed' dial) and maybe some bitcrusher/FSU (especially one of these with 'circuit bend' in name or in manual).

Yeah, I agree with hakey, I think it will be a lot of fun to work with a synth designed for game tunes/chiptune stuff, but I dont particularly want to be pushed into that style. I have a good feeling that we will pick a few folks up who want to do something in that direction, and of that time, but I also think we will lose a number of folks as well if we dont accomodate for what/how they wish to produce ... so I would have to disagree with the exclusion of delay/reverb.

However, we have plenty tim to discuss this one.

Oh, and for reason similar to the above, I would prefer the delamancha basic 64 .... Some really cool sounds coming out of that one .... and I suspect it is capable of way more than even the 128 presets suggest!

[EvilDragon]

I'd prefer OLGA comp. Was it done before, maybe?

[Nahkranoth]

As for physical modelling synths, great deal of xoxos ones hang my hosts. I won't go into details, but let's choose something else.

[EDIT]

I'd prefer OLGA comp. Was it done before, maybe?

It seems that it's shareware without restrictions. What sayest thou, tattie?

[dwsel]

I was trying to find a synth called Syntendo ... but it looks like its no longer available ... otherwose i would have sneaked it onto the list and drawn your attention to it! ... but looks like you've found something possibly very similar!

I've just dug out that one. It sounds very glitchy Even more glitchy than Unknown 64 Pro almost like a circuit bent unit Do you think it would be allright to upload this synth somewhere here for tests?

You're right about delay and/or reverb. They might be useful, and lack of these might discourage some of the people.

Adding a word to my 3rd idea... I've got inspired by this song http://soundcloud.com/mr-bitterness/breaking-down making perfect use of such squarish sounds. It looks like you can blend voice into such song

Noth:
I'm sorry to hear you have problems with xoxos' synths. Have you already tried crashing your host with suggested ones? Maybe some of them works? What do you think about Krakli's StringZ or Morphiza?

[Nahkranoth]

Noth:
I'm sorry to hear you have problems with xoxos' synths. Have you already tried crashing your host with suggested ones? Maybe some of them works? What do you think about Krakli's StringZ or Morphiza?

From those that you've already suggested I'd love to crash my host with Odo's Unknown64 , though anything except Aerophone and Boing2 should work (I've took a closer look).
Kraklis are great, but most of us will hardly manage to do convincing drums with StringZ2 (I'll be the first to fail)
I'd argue about Syntendo, as like any of Jack Dark's creations it sounds like cat thrown into bitcrusher
What about xoxos' Isnonu? Or even Clearsynth?

[dwsel]

though anything except Aerophone and Boing2 should work (I've took a closer look).

Good news Anyone other having problems with xoxos's synths too?

Kraklis are great, but most of us will hardly manage to do convincing drums with StringZ2 (I'll be the first to fail)
What about xoxos' Isnonu? Or even Clearsynth?

Who said we need drums? Is like OSC was One Multi/General-Purpose Synth Challenge (more or less except for Gargoyle OSC) I think it's time to pick something more err... challenging? I bet it's possible to create some percussive sounds out of StringZ or at least enough ambience that track would sound great without drums. This is really challenging!

Another solution would be to drop a few drum samples at OSC beginning (the same samples for everyone) if somebody felt he would need 'real drums' in his composition. That would be rule change too... Hmmm... What do you think about it?

[Mac of BIOnighT]

Actually, I've been thinking about drums for a while myself... I sometimes feel that most track are judged based on drum sounds, as if that was the core of the OSC, but it is not, from my point of view. What's wrong with a track with no drums?
Just my opinion But yeah, a no-drums osc once in a while wouldn't be that bad, perhaps.
On the other hand, I still think that too much of a challenge would drive potential partecipants away, so maybe something in the middle?

(the Borg emoticon has nothing to do with this, but I never have the chance to use it, so I figure this was as good a time as any)

[Totolitoto]

Hi,
Wouldn't it be better to split this discusssion from the votes thread? I'm afraid it could scare people

[V'ger]

Like already said, many very good entries this time around. Will be tough to vote this time, especially with the new rules.

And nice to see record turnout also, just shows how popular and useful Synth1 is.

(the Borg emoticon has nothing to do with this, but I never have the chance to use it, so I figure this was as good a time as any)

I already managed to work it in also.. ..felt good..

[tattiemannie]

Dwsel, I feel you've done yourself a disservice by mentioning too many other synths on the way to naming your choice.

Am I right in my assumption that your choice has come down to either 'unknown 64', or 'dlm basic 64' .... ?

If that is the case, these are the only ones we should be discussing right now, and unless there are solid reasons to rule out both, then one of these, and no other, will be the featured synth for OSC15.

The chosen synth is really what decides the nature of the entries to each comp, So we need to put the cart before the horse and focus discussion on the two synths mentioned above, and specifically, which of the two should be featured.

[Nahkranoth]

We're just discussing here, anyway I know it we'll choose Unknown64

[EvilDragon]

[EDIT]

I'd prefer OLGA comp. Was it done before, maybe?

It seems that it's shareware without restrictions. What sayest thou, tattie?

Exactly, that's why I'm suggesting it.


Besides, it's just DOWNRIGHT NASTY SOUNDING!


So, what say thou, tattie?