When Are We Going To See Logic/Garageband On The iPad?

[brambos]

As soon as I see someone do precision graphics and CAD work with their finger I'll shut up.

Because that's the only kind of 'creative use' of a computing device you can think of?

[Kriminal]

As soon as I see someone do precision graphics and CAD work with their finger I'll shut up.

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[p7]

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[leggie]

I'm hoping the new ipad apps don't develop in the old let's re-hash a vst interface with knob controls, what's the point? you now have 8 or more active (mini-mice) at your fingertips so to speak. Take an app like Looptastic where you can mix/cue/cross-fade/effect loops and cue other loops from different songs uninterupted while cross fading with your thumbs and fingers! I like to think Dev's will head that way in the future and get inspiration from what is the best multi-touch so far and not have knobs. Sliders and switches are ok

I brought the Korg tribe for the ipad and discovered what a peice of shit it was/is for 5.99 unstead of the original hardware price ?? 150 pounds ?!

As an after thought the marketing Apple used to raise the revenue to build the pad's and pod's was quite sickly and vile, 'A new browsing experience' and to be fair browsing is nice but so-what it's just the f**king internet, just like plugging in a kettle now and making a cup of tea eh? lovely as they both are.

Behind the screen is just another computer, focus on the best multi-touch and the new interface ideas



My 2 pence

[UltraJv]

I need a mouse and a REAL keyboard for one. If I am doing word processing, virtual keyboards don't cut it, sorry.

I also need a real OS. Sadly, the Win 7 tablets have horrible battery life, and while the iPad has great battery life (10 hours!) it also has an OS that's really restrictive and distinctly not-real (IMHO).

So, great battery life but (essentially) mobile-phone OS or horrible battery life but real OS? The answer (to me,anyway) is clear: none of the above.

I do find Windows a bad OS, lol.

I would be on Linux if not for DAWs and games.

Anyway it cant be helped on the real kb but both iOS and android are getting a few more features that will make them much more competetive even with desktop OS.


I find most of the features on Windows something that I dont need, I prefer a automatic instal like linux, and litle configuration but still working out of the box. Plus a much faster desktop experience

Ubuntu almost give you that and from what I hear of those new OS are even better in that regard.

Windows (snow leopard?) is starting to be just a old concept keep alive by thierd party software, IMO. Which cost a lot in HW (a full desktop Linux uses 200-300 MB! even with marvelous FX it runs very nice in old HW). Cost in desktop experience/responsiveness. And you still need to make workarounds...

You could just buy a hardware workstation Im happy messing about with various synths and audio apps on my Acer Aspire one (£200 netbook) under Windows 7 pro (it came with Linux which I quickly removed) - works well enough and is fun for a toy. I dont need to wait for apps to come out as everything just works -hmm, that seems familar. Why spend more and get less? The ipad WOULD be a computer if the OS wasnt crippled, as it stands its neither one thing or the other. If I miss touch input - I pick up my 7 year old Palm T PDA and get annoyed with it, nothing to see here.

[ModuLR]

if somewhat limited...why take a step back for the sake of fashion?

pay more for less? no thanks

i can get a decent PC for that price with many times more power and the freedom toy use whatever app i want on it.

I still don't understand this rationale. Personally I think the power is in the fact that you have a blank slate for interface design, whether it's used as a controller or the instrument is contained within the ipad itself. Granted it's not without flaws, but what isn't? People fork out hundreds for the various midi controllers when they hit the market... Meanwhile, you can fork out a little bit more and have a midi controller capable of customizable interfaces, completely wireless, extremely long battery life, all in one box. Now you are not going to get your 3 octave keyboard in there, but for those willing to function outside the box... you can explore new ideas for instrumentation and interface design. How is that stepping backwards?

[UltraJv]

if somewhat limited...why take a step back for the sake of fashion?

pay more for less? no thanks

i can get a decent PC for that price with many times more power and the freedom toy use whatever app i want on it.

I still don't understand this rationale. Personally I think the power is in the fact that you have a blank slate for interface design, whether it's used as a controller or the instrument is contained within the ipad itself. Granted it's not without flaws, but what isn't? People fork out hundreds for the various midi controllers when they hit the market... Meanwhile, you can fork out a little bit more and have a midi controller capable of customizable interfaces, completely wireless, extremely long battery life, all in one box. Now you are not going to get your 3 octave keyboard in there, but for those willing to function outside the box... you can explore new ideas for instrumentation and interface design. How is that stepping backwards?

Why buy a blank slate? By definition it does nothing Id rather buy soemthing made for the job. Which I did, EMU Xboard 49, 16 real knobs. Works for midi out of the box. Even if I add my netbook to the cost, they both come to way less than an ipad. As for it being wireless, thats a potenital issue as it just adds another layer of complexity which isnt needed for a controller. Im sure you and others will enjoy one but its not a game changer, its a solution looking for a problem. Im sure Apple wil sell loads though

[pc999]

Anyway... do not mistake the iPad perceived simplicity as a limitation on it's ability to be utilized as a complex and creative device. Last I recall, it's a computer...

if somewhat limited...why take a step back for the sake of fashion?

pay more for less? no thanks

i can get a decent PC for that price with many times more power and the freedom toy use whatever app i want on it.

Not talking only about iPad but of any similar no Windows tablet (which seems that can be as inexpensive as 200$)...


What is limitation in there?

For me needing a table and a mouse is a limitation;
Having to buy more HW just to run a OS which is the worst IMO, is a limitation;
Having worst batery life because of said HW is a limitation;
Having to wait for Windows to start and close is a limitation;
Not use it in a line is one more;
Not being able to use it in a moving car;
Not being able to use it as easly as I use a magazine or a book is another too...


Sure it will not be able to do the same as your i7+W7, but it is not supposed to replace it, or even your laptop.

Still you can do some quite interesting things in it, people are finding uses for it.

Maybe it is not for you but it is for someone, that is certain.

You could just buy a hardware workstation Im happy messing about with various synths and audio apps on my Acer Aspire one (£200 netbook) under Windows 7 pro (it came with Linux which I quickly removed) - works well enough and is fun for a toy. I dont need to wait for apps to come out as everything just works -hmm, that seems familar. Why spend more and get less? The ipad WOULD be a computer if the OS wasnt crippled, as it stands its neither one thing or the other. If I miss touch input - I pick up my 7 year old Palm T PDA and get annoyed with it, nothing to see here.

I am having fun with my netbook+w7 too But sadly the only advantage I have is that I can use it in a FEW places outside my home, then I still do less with synth/fx, I have poorer batery life, cant use it in a line, in a car...



Which version of Linux did it brought?

You really should give a look at Ubuntu, that is working out of the box, you dont even need to click in the "next" when instal software.

[jupiter8]

So this for example isn't true ?

Line6 have built a really cool little gadget. It plugs into an iPhone, iPod, or soon an iPad, and via their software provides quick recording and playback of MIDI files. And to Line6's credit, they've extended an open invitation to developers to support it. The problem is, supporting any accessory iPhone/iPad hardware is restricted by Apple not technically, but legal

Apparently it isn't:

Updated - Apple's language seems to allow any third-party app to support any third-party hardware driver. That would conflict with Line6's interpretation.

That's further down in the same article.

Well that was part of my point. The confusion whether it's allowed or not is even worse than flat out not allow it. How come the restriction is so fuzzy that even Line6's lawyers can make heads or tail of it ? Compare that to the restrictions of the Android.

[UltraJv]

Anyway... do not mistake the iPad perceived simplicity as a limitation on it's ability to be utilized as a complex and creative device. Last I recall, it's a computer...

if somewhat limited...why take a step back for the sake of fashion?

pay more for less? no thanks

i can get a decent PC for that price with many times more power and the freedom toy use whatever app i want on it.

Not talking only about iPad but of any similar no Windows tablet (which seems that can be as inexpensive as 200$)...


What is limitation in there?

For me needing a table and a mouse is a limitation;
Having to buy more HW just to run a OS which is the worst IMO, is a limitation;
Having worst batery life because of said HW is a limitation;
Having to wait for Windows to start and close is a limitation;
Not use it in a line is one more;
Not being able to use it in a moving car;
Not being able to use it as easly as I use a magazine or a book is another too...


Sure it will not be able to do the same as your i7+W7, but it is not supposed to replace it, or even your laptop.

Still you can do some quite interesting things in it, people are finding uses for it.

Maybe it is not for you but it is for someone, that is certain.

You could just buy a hardware workstation Im happy messing about with various synths and audio apps on my Acer Aspire one (£200 netbook) under Windows 7 pro (it came with Linux which I quickly removed) - works well enough and is fun for a toy. I dont need to wait for apps to come out as everything just works -hmm, that seems familar. Why spend more and get less? The ipad WOULD be a computer if the OS wasnt crippled, as it stands its neither one thing or the other. If I miss touch input - I pick up my 7 year old Palm T PDA and get annoyed with it, nothing to see here.

I am having fun with my netbook+w7 too But sadly the only advantage I have is that I can use it in a FEW places outside my home, then I still do less with synth/fx, I have poorer batery life, cant use it in a line, in a car...



Which version of Linux did it brought?

You really should give a look at Ubuntu, that is working out of the box, you dont even need to click in the "next" when instal software.

I cant rememebr what Linux it cames with - point is that I use it to run Traktor and some N.I standalone synths like Absynth and Massive which can even be played from QWERTY keyboard. Ive installed Ableton Live 7 on it to play with - I wouldnt want to do that under Linux. too much hassle. Plus it works with my EMU xboard 49 under Windows.

[unpeople]

As soon as I see someone do precision graphics and CAD work with their finger I'll shut up.

You're on a music plug-in site, and the topic of this thread is music software for the iPad. What does "precision graphics and CAD work" have to do with this discussion?

[SadPuppyBlues]

Could an iPad handle a DAW?

[UltraJv]

Could an iPad handle a DAW?

Maybe a simpler/older version of Reason or similar if it was rewritten yes but its CPU is too weak for much more. So Id expect more fun type audio stuff rather than a full blown DAW. Storage and file maipulation may be an issue also.

[pc999]

I cant rememebr what Linux it cames with - point is that I use it to run Traktor and some N.I standalone synths like Absynth and Massive which can even be played from QWERTY keyboard. Ive installed Ableton Live 7 on it to play with - I wouldnt want to do that under Linux. too much hassle. Plus it works with my EMU xboard 49 under Windows.

That is the reason why I have WIndows on mine, too.

But as I said the reason I have W7 on it is because third party software. If Live/VST/... ran natively (or at least hassle free) on Linux I would have a Linux netbook. It is a much better OS.

Could an iPad handle a DAW?

That is the big question.

Another one. Does it need it to be useful?

I mean I could use a notation program to do a chord progression that I would later import in my DAW. That is real work and a real time saver.

Or there is a lot of useful uses that one can think of.

[Henry Greer]

Could an iPad handle a DAW?

Many recordings have been made with a lot less horsepower. I did an indy EP for my old band with a 233mhz G3 Power Mac and Cubase VST/24. Most phones these days have more juice than that old 'puter.