Vintage Synth Emulations/Live Controlling of a Drum Machine (Page 2)
- KVRAF
- 3540 posts since 1 Oct, 2006 from Um! Where is this?
I think Poly-ana gets about as close to the analogue sound as any vsti can get.
http://www.kvraudio.com/db/2303
http://www.kvraudio.com/db/2303
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 202 posts since 24 Jul, 2011 from Berlin, Germany
I'm not asking for vintage synths here, I ask for software versions of them, don't misunderstand me. 
TubeOhm Vintage is actually a Roland D-50 emulation but it's more than just the D-50.
TubeOhm Vintage is actually a Roland D-50 emulation but it's more than just the D-50.
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- KVRAF
- 5666 posts since 23 Mar, 2006 from pendeLondonmonium
Oh no doubt, but they are available at inflated prices, which is what we briefly talked about.deastman wrote:Vintage synths are still available.
So do I.deastman wrote:I have a few of them,
Regardless of where you look for to check the prices, Ebay has given people expectations that everything is worth loads of money and that it will sell for loads of money (and it usually does) and that trickles to other market places.
Anyway, that's OT.
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 202 posts since 24 Jul, 2011 from Berlin, Germany
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thecontrolcentre thecontrolcentre https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=76240
- KVRAF
- 37262 posts since 27 Jul, 2005 from Scottish Borders
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 202 posts since 24 Jul, 2011 from Berlin, Germany
Well, yeah, these are quite nice, but I like to collect them and see which ones are better etc. Maybe there is another free emulation better than another free one, so I'll get that one and delete the old one.
Now, pleeeeease, onto my second question concerning drum controlling.
P.S.: List on page 2 updated again.
Now, pleeeeease, onto my second question concerning drum controlling.
P.S.: List on page 2 updated again.
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thecontrolcentre thecontrolcentre https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=76240
- KVRAF
- 37262 posts since 27 Jul, 2005 from Scottish Borders
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 202 posts since 24 Jul, 2011 from Berlin, Germany
Okay, will do that.
Any help with live Spark controlling?
Any help with live Spark controlling?
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- KVRAF
- 14739 posts since 19 Oct, 2003 from Berlin, Germany
Nice, so you found some use out of the two pages I linked you (see page 2).
Regarding the control... I know that the OBX software version can be easily controlled with a Behringer Control device (BCR2000). And it sure isn't limited to that synth only. Maybe this is a good starting point - the BCR's go for dirt cheap recently.
Personally I don't use my BCF/BCR for controlling synths except for one or two occasions (like my Proteus Hardware Modules instead of switching controller banks), but it's definitely capable of pulling some interesting stuff if the device is programmed accordingly.
Take a look at my KVRmarks regarding the BCR/BCF - else, if you got some Q's, throw me a PM.
Regarding the control... I know that the OBX software version can be easily controlled with a Behringer Control device (BCR2000). And it sure isn't limited to that synth only. Maybe this is a good starting point - the BCR's go for dirt cheap recently.
Personally I don't use my BCF/BCR for controlling synths except for one or two occasions (like my Proteus Hardware Modules instead of switching controller banks), but it's definitely capable of pulling some interesting stuff if the device is programmed accordingly.
Take a look at my KVRmarks regarding the BCR/BCF - else, if you got some Q's, throw me a PM.
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 202 posts since 24 Jul, 2011 from Berlin, Germany
I checked the BCF-2000 controller, quite a nice one, thanks for the recommendation. But how should it help me with the quick controlling of the drums? Isn't it the same as the Arturia controller? I really need something what I can use for fast drum live controlling without having to take one hand of the keyboard while playing to press a button for the fill-in and then pressing another button to go back to the main drum loop... 
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- KVRAF
- 14739 posts since 19 Oct, 2003 from Berlin, Germany
The BCR is a rotary controller with 4x8 rotary pots and 24 (plus a handful more) programmable buttons. If you put it on your keyboard, it should be fairly simple to reach what you want. Else, try a KORG PadControl.
Actually, I just reread your initial problem and took a peek at both the linked video and the Arturia Spark (which kind of got past me).
Yes, looks like the pattern is preprogrammed and only triggered in terms of play and stop. The video also shows that the performer is switching between presets of the Oberheim (since it's right in front of him) - which could also work for the Spark.
A thing you could try might be a MIDI controller that you can control with your feet. An example might be the Behringer FCB-1010 - you'd use your feet for triggering the drum machine (and maybe one or two other things) while having both hands on the keyboard.
The rest is only a matter of configuration (note on/off, keyswitch, etc) and proper unit placement (easier to reach/control, etc).
Though I don't have any experience with the FCB or a similar device. I highly advice to read up on it first (online manual, try to find video tutorials, Yahoo Groups, etc).
Hope that helps.
EDIT 0:24am, Sunday:
I just checked the FCB1010. Looks like it's as highly customizable as the BCR/BCF series, has a suitable YahooGroup and several excellent editors for both Win and Mac.
I've also read that with an OS EPROM modification, you can pretty much pull off what you were asking and then some. This is all documented at the YahooGroups as well.
Turns out that Behringer MIDI control devices are not a piece of trash after all. Long live the Behringer community (Modder/DIYer/editor coder).
Actually, I just reread your initial problem and took a peek at both the linked video and the Arturia Spark (which kind of got past me).
Yes, looks like the pattern is preprogrammed and only triggered in terms of play and stop. The video also shows that the performer is switching between presets of the Oberheim (since it's right in front of him) - which could also work for the Spark.
A thing you could try might be a MIDI controller that you can control with your feet. An example might be the Behringer FCB-1010 - you'd use your feet for triggering the drum machine (and maybe one or two other things) while having both hands on the keyboard.
The rest is only a matter of configuration (note on/off, keyswitch, etc) and proper unit placement (easier to reach/control, etc).
Though I don't have any experience with the FCB or a similar device. I highly advice to read up on it first (online manual, try to find video tutorials, Yahoo Groups, etc).
Hope that helps.
EDIT 0:24am, Sunday:
I just checked the FCB1010. Looks like it's as highly customizable as the BCR/BCF series, has a suitable YahooGroup and several excellent editors for both Win and Mac.
I've also read that with an OS EPROM modification, you can pretty much pull off what you were asking and then some. This is all documented at the YahooGroups as well.
Turns out that Behringer MIDI control devices are not a piece of trash after all. Long live the Behringer community (Modder/DIYer/editor coder).
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 202 posts since 24 Jul, 2011 from Berlin, Germany
Thanks for the advice of the foot controller. It might just the thing which I need.
I have on my MM6 an output called "Foot Controller" and there are two outputs on the FCB-1010, "Switch 1" and "Switch 2". So how do I connect that thing actually and how can I let it trigger the drum machine so that Spark recognizes this controller? Why does it say that it's for guitars or V-Amps?
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- KVRAF
- 2313 posts since 11 Mar, 2003
The John Bowen synths are not VSTis, but require a Scope card. There are also avaliable as Sonic Core Scope versions of those synths (Profit-5 and proTone). If you want to include those maybe asterix them and you could also include Sonic Core's Minimax (Minimoog emu) and Prodyssey (Odyssey emu). Their UKnow 007 is pretty much a Juno 106 emu too.matt1314 wrote: Sequential Circuits:
- SCI Prophet-5 (Arturia, Memorymoon, Native Instruments, EFM, John Bowen)
- SCI Pro-One (EFM, Omnitaur (?), John Bowen)
How about GForce's M-Tron Pro?matt1314 wrote: Others:
- Mellotron (Cosmosis Library)
I think this is still not the full list. Maybe I forgot something, just let me know if I did.
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thecontrolcentre thecontrolcentre https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=76240
- KVRAF
- 37262 posts since 27 Jul, 2005 from Scottish Borders
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randyandyvandaman randyandyvandaman https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=181504
- Banned
- 912 posts since 27 May, 2008
Matt,
Have a look at Arturia Analogue Laboratory 49 key.
This will give you nice integration with Spark but also access to 3,500 classic an emulations from moog, jupiter, arp etc.
I have both but about to sell for some serious HW.
Cheers
Have a look at Arturia Analogue Laboratory 49 key.
This will give you nice integration with Spark but also access to 3,500 classic an emulations from moog, jupiter, arp etc.
I have both but about to sell for some serious HW.
Cheers
